Where to find non social media obsessed women?

[Clockwerk50]

Nowadays, everyone is glued to their phone, and even though being “addicted” to social media is a nuance, the majority of people use their social fingerprint for different reasons. The issue here is not the addiction itself, but the type of media they consume and whether it prevents them from completing their daily tasks.

On one hand, you have women who are very active online, in which they post frequently, chase engagement, and promote certain attitudes such as dating hacks, male-bashing, or toxic content. On the other hand, there are women who keep a lower profile with few posts, modest following, and use social media mostly for sharing moments through stories with friends, family, or things like travel, weddings, and hobbies.

If your goal is to connect with the second group, those women are usually best met through real world or online social circles like friends of friends, community events, professional networks, or shared-interest groups like sports, hobbies, volunteering, etc. These women tend to value authenticity and reputation within their circles more than online attention.

 

[Divorced w 3]

So you want to fish on a site where the only qualifier is how someone looks? And women have all the choosing power? Good luck.

This reminds me a little of when online chat rooms began, people would say what they could do generate and exciting life and then they’d be out in person and literally had nothing to say.

The only determinant of whom enters your life is you. You’re also the determinant of what you choose to say about yourself and present yourself. If you have nothing interesting to offer about yourself, that may be something to consider.

Someone who is good looking won’t get much action online if they don’t have an interesting life, just like someone who’s average but has a full life will generate more interest than the former.

The only difference between online and in person is that you can feign this once or twice meeting someone in person, but if you don’t have something to show online you’re going to get fished out faster.

So yes, good luck.

 

[BeExcellent]

Advice from the old lady:

Go to cultural things that interest you regularly. The symphony, museums, gallery events. Volunteer at such places.

There is also church.

I am always amazed at men who think they are going to meet pious girls at a bar. You CAN, but its going to be a crapshoot and random. So could you get lucky? Sure. You could also get struck by lightning.

If you go to church, do not go to "meet women". Go because you value the experience. I would advise choosing a congregation that has a robust young adult or singles ministry. You could make some men friends along the way too.

Just understand this: Men in these more conservative environments are not going to be as RP aware and you might see them as blue pilled dummies. But they all aren't. My own father taught the same adult Sunday school class for 35 years. He also was a highly regarded lawyer who had practiced family law some 20 years along the way. He understood female nature. He was an extremely handsome man & had 4 daughters. He knew male/female dynamics very well.

So there's always church.

If you want the kind of woman you say, you are going to have to figure out where to go & what to do to meet them.

Go do some physical activities that do not attract overweight people (eg skiing/snowboarding, tennis, running clubs, cycling clubs, rock climbing etc.)

Refer to old thread "How to Spot a Unicorn".

 

[HaleyBaron]

social media is part of the day to day life- and can enhance your dating life if done right - its basically the way to advertise who you are- a lot of women that i met through daygame said they scoured my social media before agreeing to a date.

Women need social media to keep their options open or they risk losing out too- no woman is going to sacrifice the chance of dating better just to appease your personal needs. It can work to your advantage if done right you need to embrace it. Because its not going away

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No, what women need are to be banned from it.

 

[BeExcellent]

I'd like to point out something for y'all to think about & really digest.....

Those who cannot lead seek to control.

There are great examples of this thoroughout history. And there are also instances where a man leads initially (and people willingly follow) until darker motivations become known, and at that point the power initially gained through leadership & influence erodes and now power is kept through control.

So to me, any man saying women should be denied the vote or banned from social media, etc., etc., etc., shows me that man wants to control because he has no idea how to actually lead.

Learn to lead.

Food for thought gentlemen.

 

[justaroundthecorner]

Go do some physical activities that do not attract overweight people

 

[Divorced w 3]

I'd like to point out something for y'all to think about & really digest.....

Those who cannot lead seek to control.

There are great examples of this thoroughout history. And there are also instances where a man leads initially (and people willingly follow) until darker motivations become known, and at that point the power initially gained through leadership & influence erodes and now power is kept through control.

So to me, any man saying women should be denied the vote or banned from social media, etc., etc., etc., shows me that man wants to control because he has no idea how to actually lead.

Learn to lead.

Food for thought gentlemen.

100%. Tough lesson I had to learn.

 

[Isildur1]

Why would you ever give a woman the upper hand? Just stop using social media. It's leading men to their demise. Its almost as bad as dating apps.

i've used social media - Instagram, wechat to close women from daygame interactions

its not giving women the upper hand its providing comfort by showing you have a social circle, showing youre not a loser and have a life- instagram photos can show this - it's helped to reduce my flake rate too from daygame interactions- isn't that the whole point of this forum to get better with women? surely you'd take actionable steps towards flake reduction which strong social media profiles can do

does it work 100 percent of the time of course not - its just about building rapport and comfort gradually- but i have had women state that my wechat photos and instgram pics and stories were a reason why they agreed to meet with me (of course you have to approach first and foremost and thats the most important thing)

also large chunks of women primarily use instagram dm as their number one means of communication - if you dont have it you could be missing out - especially in east asia where the majority use Wechat, Line and Kakao Talk over instagram (with the exception of japan) by not having a good social media you are increasing the chances of getting flaked on - pure and simple - ive reengaged a few women via instagram stories too- they can be a good tool to rehook dead leads which whatsapp doesnt give you.

 

[Divorced w 3]

i've used social media - Instagram, wechat to close women from daygame interactions

its not giving women the upper hand its providing comfort by showing you have a social circle, showing youre not a loser and have a life- instagram photos can show this - it's helped to reduce my flake rate too from daygame interactions- isn't that the whole point of this forum to get better with women? surely you'd take actionable steps towards flake reduction which strong social media profiles can do

does it work 100 percent of the time of course not - its just about building rapport and comfort gradually- but i have had women state that my wechat photos and instgram pics and stories were a reason why they agreed to meet with me (of course you have to approach first and foremost and thats the most important thing)

I think social media done properly is a frame amplifier but as everything, it's in the execution.

 

[Isildur1]

I think social media done properly is a frame amplifier but as everything, it's in the execution.

yeah of course

if you have **** pictures and uninteresting stories it will diminish your value

if you have good photos and good stories it can entice certain women - Wechat helped a lot with closing women who didn't use instagram or whatsapp - seeing as live in London there are a lot of Chinese, Taiwanese and Hong Kongers that use it for a means of communication .

yeah it takes some time but the juice is worth the squeeze - of course you need to still approach first and foremost- social media is just to amplify the value that you ascertain during the approach itself. Still the number one thing is increasing options and approaching consistently - im not trying to say im getting my **** sucked left right and centre just by having good photos but it has helped push some "maybes" into yes

 

[The Duke]

i've used social media - Instagram, wechat to close women from daygame interactions

its not giving women the upper hand its providing comfort by showing you have a social circle, showing youre not a loser and have a life- instagram photos can show this - it's helped to reduce my flake rate too from daygame interactions- isn't that the whole point of this forum to get better with women? surely you'd take actionable steps towards flake reduction which strong social media profiles can do

does it work 100 percent of the time of course not - its just about building rapport and comfort gradually- but i have had women state that my wechat photos and instgram pics and stories were a reason why they agreed to meet with me (of course you have to approach first and foremost and thats the most important thing)

also large chunks of women primarily use instagram dm as their number one means of communication - if you dont have it you could be missing out - especially in east asia where the majority use Wechat, Line and Kakao Talk over instagram (with the exception of japan) by not having a good social media you are increasing the chances of getting flaked on - pure and simple - ive reengaged a few women via instagram stories too- they can be a good tool to rehook dead leads which whatsapp doesnt give you.

I quit using social media years ago. I don't have any of the problems you do.
I don't need to put some bull schit show on for social proof to get girls to go out with me and not flake. Just not the type I like to attract.

 

[DreamAgain]

yeah of course

if you have **** pictures and uninteresting stories it will diminish your value

if you have good photos and good stories it can entice certain women - Wechat helped a lot with closing women who didn't use instagram or whatsapp - seeing as live in London there are a lot of Chinese, Taiwanese and Hong Kongers that use it for a means of communication .

yeah it takes some time but the juice is worth the squeeze - of course you need to still approach first and foremost- social media is just to amplify the value that you ascertain during the approach itself. Still the number one thing is increasing options and approaching consistently - im not trying to say im getting my **** sucked left right and centre just by having good photos but it has helped push some "maybes" into yes

Do you not find the women who are into social media extremely conformist and superficial? I suppose we can expand this to include men too.

They all use the same phrases from whatever reels they watch. They all seem to have the same thoughts. I've yet to meet a girl with over 50+ pictures lets say who wasnt hyper in tune to just parroting whatever trends she consumes.

Their creativity of expression seems completely dead, as if I can predict all of their words and thoughts before they even speak. Their political leanings, their economic inclinations, what music they listen to, etc.

 

[Divorced w 3]

I quit using social media years ago. I don't have any of the problems you do.
I don't need to put some bull schit show on for social proof to get girls to go out with me and not flake. Just not the type I like to attract.

i also feel this

i have i would say, an undecided point of view of social media. it's nice to see updates from friends and family, but those updates are a sliver of the content and largely the content is clickbait by people who have become semi-pro content creators, for a certain type of dopamine stimulating personal effect

 

[jhonny9546]

The type of people that are less likely to use social media will have these traits:

-Don't need external validation
-High Self Awareness
-They have hobbies, and live their life with purpose
-Strong Boundaries
-Goal Driven
-They prefer to connect with others in person
-They are critical thinkers
-Don't like drama
-They live in the present

What you wrote is important.
In your experience, women like this still do **** tests, or they have a "catch the seducer" attitude, or they'll simply be honest with themselves and won't say things like "What are we?", "I feel like we're going nowhere," or other things that women we all know usually say.

If you want the kind of woman you say, you are going to have to figure out where to go & what to do to meet them.

Simply imagine the life you think she should live according to your standards, and then you'll meet her.
There are certainly some opportunities on apps, too, but there's more filtering to do.
While IRL, less filtering but fewer opportunities.

 

[Barrister]

Interesting thread. I have never had anything more than a Facebook account, and I have come close to getting rid of that multiple times in the past. I hang onto it because it actually does help me learn a new face (typically work/business related) and let people see you. I never post and do not put up any pics other than profile.

I have never regretted not getting into Instagram or anything else. It is a cesspool of attention wh0re women and thirsty men who are trying to get scraps of attention from said women. Really pathetic to be honest. My most recent ex-LTR had a fairly significant Insta following (probably about 5k which I acknowledge is not as much as some but still significant for where I am), and I stupidly discounted this as not a big deal - probably in part because I never saw any of her content not being on it. It absolutely is a huge red flag and one we should be paying more attention to when screening women for something more than a short term fling. This is attention-seeking/validation-seeking behavior.

 

[DreamAgain]

Interesting thread. I have never had anything more than a Facebook account, and I have come close to getting rid of that multiple times in the past. I hang onto it because it actually does help me learn a new face (typically work/business related) and let people see you. I never post and do not put up any pics other than profile.

I have never regretted not getting into Instagram or anything else. It is a cesspool of attention wh0re women and thirsty men who are trying to get scraps of attention from said women. Really pathetic to be honest. My most recent ex-LTR had a fairly significant Insta following (probably about 5k which I acknowledge is not as much as some but still significant for where I am), and I stupidly discounted this as not a big deal - probably in part because I never saw any of her content not being on it. It absolutely is a huge red flag and one we should be paying more attention to when screening women for something more than a short term fling. This is attention-seeking/validation-seeking behavior.

Gen Z women (typically defined as those in their late teens to mid-20s) in some regions can spend as much as 6 hours and 36 minutes online per day across all internet usage, with a large portion of that time dedicated to social media platforms like TikTok and Instagram.

Women aged 18-29 in the U.S. average around 3.5 hours daily on social platforms.
Women aged 25-34 follow closely, spending an average of 2 hours and 50 minutes per day.

It is seemingly inescapable, a depressing reality to deal with.

 

[Barrister]

Gen Z women (typically defined as those in their late teens to mid-20s) in some regions can spend as much as 6 hours and 36 minutes online per day across all internet usage, with a large portion of that time dedicated to social media platforms like TikTok and Instagram.

Women aged 18-29 in the U.S. average around 3.5 hours daily on social platforms.
Women aged 25-34 follow closely, spending an average of 2 hours and 50 minutes per day.

It is seemingly inescapable, a depressing reality to deal with.

The thing is I wouldn't say necessarily just being "online" by itself is necessarily bad in and of itself. I am actually online quite a bit throughout the day here and there for work related purposes. It is specifically the brain dead practices of just sitting there absorbing toxic bullsh1t from other clueless women over and over that has created this terrible cycle. Millennials are bad but Gen Z are certainly way worse.

 

[DreamAgain]

The thing is I wouldn't say necessarily just being "online" by itself is necessarily bad in and of itself. I am actually online quite a bit throughout the day here and there for work related purposes. It is specifically the brain dead practices of just sitting there absorbing toxic bullsh1t from other clueless women over and over that has created this terrible cycle. Millennials are bad but Gen Z are certainly way worse.

We know they arent on harvard opencourseware or reading the economist...

 

[HaleyBaron]

We know they arent on harvard opencourseware or reading the economist...

Meanwhile, we give them the right to vote.

 

[Isildur1]

Do you not find the women who are into social media extremely conformist and superficial? I suppose we can expand this to include men too.

They all use the same phrases from whatever reels they watch. They all seem to have the same thoughts. I've yet to meet a girl with over 50+ pictures lets say who wasnt hyper in tune to just parroting whatever trends she consumes.

Their creativity of expression seems completely dead, as if I can predict all of their words and thoughts before they even speak. Their political leanings, their economic inclinations, what music they listen to, etc.

no not really , a lot of women from east asia are reliant on it as apps like Wechat are used for payment/ business in east asia as well as europe too

having 20-30 decent pics as men that have you doing interesting things reduces flakes in the long run from my experiences doing daygame and alot of women i've approached used instagram dm and wechat moreso than they use whatsapp or text- in fact in a lot of areas I've personally daygamed in the middle east/ South East Asia more women used Instagram, Wechat and Snapchat than whatsapp - its about preparation for closing leads well.

This doesn't mean it gets you laid every single time - but say out of 20 women i close the numbers of- interesting pictures and stories will glen an extra 10-15 percent dates from otherwise dead leads .

I quit using social media years ago. I don't have any of the problems you do.
I don't need to put some bull schit show on for social proof to get girls to go out with me and not flake. Just not the type I like to attract.

well direct feedback from women i've closed said they screened my social media before agreeing a date- its not about bs - it's about comfort building, if i approach them during the day im a stranger to them - if they are 50 50 about wanting to see me a good social media profile of me doing interesting things can maybe in some cases tip the maybes into yeses. Some women want clarity when meeting a stranger and there's nothing wrong with that.

again this doesn't work all the time but it has resurrected some dead leads successfully and reengaged some who flake then after a breakup they reengage- it's just a tool in an arsenal that combined with a good interaction can be good for men to use.

And certain women use social media apps as part of their day to day existence especially when closing in East Asia or East Asians Wechat has been a very useful tool which has helped me secure a decent quantity of dates from people who didn't use whatsapp