"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Where to draw the line on flaking

dj_jazzybrad

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Take today for instance. Had a date set up with a girl ive been on one date with it, out of the blue she texts me "hey it looks like I can't make it today". I just said "no biggie. Give me a rain check for later this weekend?" her: "definately :) ".
I've never actually been totally flaked on where I go to meet a girl somewhere and she just doesn't show. But what's a good response when the above scenario happens for the second time? It just seems like the tables are kind of turning, haha. As much as I realize it and don't want it to happen, she's making me emotionally attached by being busy... l
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Analyzeit

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I personally give them two chances.

As you said "No biggie, later in the weekend?" then she flakes again later this weekend without a good reason that you know is true. draw the line.
 

dj_jazzybrad

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Analyzeit said:
I personally give them two chances.

As you said "No biggie, later in the weekend?" then she flakes again later this weekend without a good reason that you know is true. draw the line.
So would you suggest saying something about it or simply moving on?
 

TheBucketOfTruth

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If a girl flakes, you should set up a new time right then. If she flakes again, there's really no reason to talk to her again. I'll allow one flake just because sometimes there are extenuating circumstances, but two in a row just means she is blowing you off.
 

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Do try to setup the 2nd time right away. Perhaps be more forceful and demonstrate your desire and value by replying with more of a statement then a question granting her all the power. Maybe, "No biggie, we can hangout Saturday night instead." You've successfully in this case 1) Demonstrated you do want to hangout with her (Remember- you are always being tested, she might be trying to avoid a 1night close ) 2) Set a date for the raincheck, and 3) Displayed your ability to lead and kept the power on your hand rather than just letting her "pick" the time.

If she replies with some sort of "maybe" then forget it. But if it's a yes, just shoot her a quick text the day before/earlier the day of and set some more solid plans.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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PeeGee

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Things do come up and plans need to be cancelled. But a girl who is interested will offer a backup time.

I planned to spend a weekend with this girl, and she said something last week to make me wary of a possible flake. So when she came to me with this I wasn't shocked:

Hey i won't be able to hang out on Saturday - I have this planning thing with the baby shower

Actually I was a little shocked since that excuse was legit. She then followed up with:

But I'm free Sunday

Score.
 

edger

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PeeGee said:
Things do come up and plans need to be cancelled. But a girl who is interested will offer a backup time.
Not necssarily true. Sometimes people are so passive, that they'll offer another time. I remember that being the case with me years ago when I wasn't interested in a chick. Best thing to do is, if she offers a counter hang-out, let her get in touch with you. That'll show most likely whether she's interested or not.
 

thebestthing

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PeeGee said:
Things do come up and plans need to be cancelled. But a girl who is interested will offer a backup time.

I planned to spend a weekend with this girl, and she said something last week to make me wary of a possible flake. So when she came to me with this I wasn't shocked:

Hey i won't be able to hang out on Saturday - I have this planning thing with the baby shower

Actually I was a little shocked since that excuse was legit. She then followed up with:

But I'm free Sunday

Score.
Isn't this bad though? It's like you conforming to fit her schedule.
I believe smoeone told me on these boards that in this situation you make plans for Sunday [with someone else], and tell her "No, I'm busy Sunday, but Tuesday is fine." to keep yourself in control.

Confirm/deny?
 
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