Where the fvck are all the MEN these days?

[BobFuest]

ok I will make this short and sweet. Anyone younger then 23 need not apply here.
Men are out there making me look bad. Every single girl-friend of mine (girls that are my friends or FB) tells me the same thing; after 3 weeks all you so called "men" start with the "i love you, I want to take you away, why cant we be bf / gf." WTF is going on here in Chicago? is it something in the water? Does anyone else have this going on? I know there are a lot of AFC's out there but there seems to be some kind of "weak ass" flu going on out there in the male population of the midwest. I am going to be wearing my SARS mask from now on so i don't catch your limp d1ck syndrome. BTW, all your doing is turning yourself from potential to creepy.

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Gabriel G. - a little shy sometimes but never a limp d1ck.

 

[Interceptor]

Becasue these are guys who are in Love with 'love'.
They arent used to regular sex or the intimacy and comppanionship of a woman.

Since the havent had their needs met in a while, they become clingy and possesive in order to secure these women from leaving them.


These are guys who dont really have the skills to manage relationships yet.

It's tough.
I woudln't be so daming and condemning.
After all you are no better than them.

Theyre just guys who dont have it together really, a little immature, and not too in touch with reality. And not too in tune with a woman's 'frequency' so to speak.

The truth is men dont really grow up learning the tools of how to handle emotions.

So they feel something and they think it MUST BE REAL.

They also grow up thinking that is what ALL women want.

"All women NEED to be in a RELATIONSHIP! SO I will GIVE themTHAT!!!'

men grow up not knowing how to manage and feel their emotions maturely and objectively.
ASo they feel them MORE STRONGLY than women.

So they take rejection and Loss of relatiomships MUCH harder than women do.




And they get too attached too quickly.
Its the Emotional Investment Gauge and Switch they need to learn how to use.
And women arent going to do them any favors in teaching them or telling them.

So theyre stuck in a rock and a hard place untill they find a place like this and make that realization.

Its a lot fo societial programming and inexperience combined,add some sexual guilt and shame, or unworthiness, emasculating media and propaganda and you got what you see..

 

[frivolousz21]

ok I will make this short and sweet. Anyone younger then 23 need not apply here.
Men are out there making me look bad. Every single girl-friend of mine (girls that are my friends or FB) tells me the same thing; after 3 weeks all you so called "men" start with the "i love you, I want to take you away, why cant we be bf / gf." WTF is going on here in Chicago? is it something in the water? Does anyone else have this going on? I know there are a lot of AFC's out there but there seems to be some kind of "weak ass" flu going on out there in the male population of the midwest. I am going to be wearing my SARS mask from now on so i don't catch your limp d1ck syndrome. BTW, all your doing is turning yourself from potential to creepy.

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Gabriel G. - a little shy sometimes but never a limp d1ck.

I live in st. louis bro....its pretty bad.

the current women im dating was talking to/dating 3 guys before I showed and used the word..yes..she said one of them was a huge pyssy, she said another was emotionally weak and crazy, and the other was buying her flowers and shyt 3 monhts after she said she needed space and went so fast.

funny, how when a women meets a man she lets out all of her crap to me.

I broke her back last night in bed, today she blew up my phone talking about how she is falling for me.

look at this as a chance for Bob Fuest to be the man

 

[joekerr31]

input: I love you!

[male translator activated]

translation: man you are hot and I want to bang you 5 times a day for the next year. don't leave me because i love grabbing your *ss and pounding that p*ssy.

 

[azanon]

Most men in the US are AFC. This has been well documented here.

I look at the cup-half-full perspective; Just think what an advantage that gives you over most other males.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Generation AFC

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

worldwide phenom. I was teaching a class here in Japan a few months back of Freshmen, dudes that just started at the company, fresh out of uni. There were 4 girls in a class of about 20. They came up to me as a group, and asked "so what do you think of japanese men?"

I said "they're cool", being the teacher i didn't want to ruffle any feathers, and the girls whispered to me "they are really weak! don't you think they seem gay?":crackup: :crackup:

Jezuz mother mary I love japan....

 

[My Name is Nobody]

Most men in the US are AFC.

Yep, it makes sense.

 

[Señor Fingers]

Men are a dying breed, espeecially in American society. A large part of this blame belongs to capitalist-dogmas which place profit above public good at every turn.

Male-bashing is an excellent marketing tool aimed at the country's biggest spenders of disposable goods.. WOMEN. Think about it.. how many things that a woman buys lasts more than 6 months? She is a capitalist's wet-dream come true! Also, the more feminine/passive men become, the more they will turn into b!tches that get their therapy from shopping as well.

Another big problem is men equating sex with love. Most of these dudes have serious issues, thanks to the breakdown of the family unit in this country. I look at how frigid american families are with one another.. the complete lack of physical affection between them is truly depressing and it's no wonder men fall for the first person that gives them a f*cking hug!

The absence of real father figures poses yet another problem. We are starved for role models.. some form of guidance to light our path, but most Dad's are either gone without a trace, beaten down and defeated by life, or totally AFC themselves. What we are seeing now did not happen overnight. Decades of conditioning have eroded the masculine status quo.

Going beyond gender-specific issues, we live in a society that discourages personal strength/responsibility in favor of instant gratification and escapism. Both sexes are becoming progressively weaker in character.. more superficial and lacking in substance.

Where are the real men? Where are the real WOMEN for that matter? They are locked away behind layers of insecurity, frustration, false beliefs and misguided ideals perpetuated by a world where the only way to get happiness is outside yourself in the form of status, cash and sex.

 

[strey]

input: I love you!

[male translator activated]

translation: man you are hot and I want to bang you 5 times a day for the next year. don't leave me because i love grabbing your *ss and pounding that p*ssy.

yes, this is what i usually mean if i ever say that. i would rather say "i love you" and destroy some girls guts for a while, than dont say anything and jerk off. and another thing is that when we do say this, its is a security thing, but only coz we dont want you to bang another guy and give us herpes. and even after that i always come down with something that she got "before" we were together. cant trust any of these chicks

 

[strey]

Men are a dying breed, espeecially in American society. A large part of this blame belongs to capitalist-dogmas which place profit above public good at every turn.

Male-bashing is an excellent marketing tool aimed at the country's biggest spenders of disposable goods.. WOMEN. Think about it.. how many things that a woman buys lasts more than 6 months? She is a capitalist's wet-dream come true! Also, the more feminine/passive men become, the more they will turn into b!tches that get their therapy from shopping as well.

Another big problem is men equating sex with love. Most of these dudes have serious issues, thanks to the breakdown of the family unit in this country. I look at how frigid american families are with one another.. the complete lack of physical affection between them is truly depressing and it's no wonder men fall for the first person that gives them a f*cking hug!

The absence of real father figures poses yet another problem. We are starved for role models.. some form of guidance to light our path, but most Dad's are either gone without a trace, beaten down and defeated by life, or totally AFC themselves. What we are seeing now did not happen overnight. Decades of conditioning have eroded the masculine status quo.

Going beyond gender-specific issues, we live in a society that discourages personal strength/responsibility in favor of instant gratification and escapism. Both sexes are becoming progressively weaker in character.. more superficial and lacking in substance.

Where are the real men? Where are the real WOMEN for that matter? They are locked away behind layers of insecurity, frustration, false beliefs and misguided ideals perpetuated by a world where the only way to get happiness is outside yourself in the form of status, cash and sex.

makes perfect sense

 

[DavenJuan]

where im from its from both genders.

a good friend of mine was dating a chic for a month and they both were always telling each other how much they lovEd each other. They broke up a month later.

a lot of people REALLY believe they are in love. i guess it is based on their definition of it.

they associate INTIMACY = love... WRONG

 

[STR8UP]

where im from its from both genders.

Same here. But despite the mainstream attitude that tells us the man should be "romancing" a woman to "win her favor", it doesn't work that way. So when a man DOES something like this, a woman sees it as weak and pathetic.

What is important to note is that when WOMEN are the ones falling all over themselves to get to you, what triggers this? It's the OPPOSITE of you asking them to marry you within three weeks of meeting them.

All you gotta do is be the opposite of "that" guy. This is a big part of the reason why a minority of men get the majority of women hot and bothered. just the way it is.

 

[Omen]

where im from its from both genders.

a good friend of mine was dating a chic for a month and they both were always telling each other how much they lovEd each other. They broke up a month later.

a lot of people REALLY believe they are in love. i guess it is based on their definition of it.

they associate INTIMACY = love... WRONG

I think this is part of it. I have dated many women, and I can only think of ONE I said I love you to. This one I was supposed to marry, but I dated a girl over a year once and it never came up.

I think some guys are like... Wow, I have a girlfriend, it is going good, we dont have problems.... I LOVE YOU.

Another thought of mine, and this is because I work with so many young people... I wonder how much of it starts in the teen years and is then carried over to the ages we are.

I work with a girl who had dated this guy for 2yrs. Now she is only 16 and he was like 22 or so, so do the math when they started dating. Yeah, 14 and 20 or so. Anyway, she would always tell me.... WE HAVE LOVE. I'd always say...good luck with the relationship, and she would say we dont need luck, we have love. He'll do anything for me, and basically buy me anything I want.

After about 3 months when I had that conversation with her, they broke up. She was tired of him having no direction in life.

Aside from that being most of it, they didnt know what love was, and I think just because they were together and he bought stuff for her, that they were in love.

She NEVER brought him to parties except once. The two other ones she was at where I was at too, she didnt bring him. He wasn't even at the New Years Eve party. She never spoke about him much, etc etc. BUT.... They were still in love.

I think the point i'm making is that so many people have screwed up ideas about what love is, that you are in love just cause a girl with big boobs goes out with you. Damn.... I love you baby. I mean, we really connect. Dont you feel it too.

People jump into love WAY TOO QUICK. And as I have noticed, too many young people THINK they are in love, when they have no idea what it is. The girl I spoke of only had ONE boyfriend and that was it. How can she tell me she was in love never dating another person? And not only that most 16yr olds have no idea and are way too young to grasp it all.

So in turn its burned in males and females heads I think at the teen years, and then when they get our age, it has been carried over, and they know no other way.

This guy at work whose probably 17 or 18 is constantly saying how he is so in love with his girl, posts all these comments on MySpace, and is like a little kid in love with candy. By reading what he writes, you'd think he's the biggest pansy in the world. Baby, you're amazing, baby, your this, I love you like..... BLAH BLAH SHUT IT.

Just my thought that some of it is happening more because its worse than it was at the younger age.

 

[ketostix]

Men are a dying breed, espeecially in American society. A large part of this blame belongs to capitalist-dogmas which place profit above public good at every turn.

Male-bashing is an excellent marketing tool aimed at the country's biggest spenders of disposable goods.. WOMEN. Think about it.. how many things that a woman buys lasts more than 6 months? She is a capitalist's wet-dream come true! Also, the more feminine/passive men become, the more they will turn into b!tches that get their therapy from shopping as well.


Going beyond gender-specific issues, we live in a society that discourages personal strength/responsibility in favor of instant gratification and escapism. Both sexes are becoming progressively weaker in character.. more superficial and lacking in substance.

Where are the real men? Where are the real WOMEN for that matter? They are locked away behind layers of insecurity, frustration, false beliefs and misguided ideals perpetuated by a world where the only way to get happiness is outside yourself in the form of status, cash and sex.

You have a point. Women are consumers and not producers. And so they take more than they give.

I think another problem is that we tend to so narrowly define an AFC as basically contingent on if he gets the pvssy or not and how much. (It kind of goes back to my point that all men demand of women is pvssy, so women can hold it in low supply). When really you can be getting the pvssy and still support all the things that are wrong with women and society. If men were really not being AFCs they'd call women on their sh!t, and put women back in their proper roles and restore the natural order overall. But you cannot do this nowadays, women will simply hold back the pvssy. Men have no leverage like they use to, and that leverage was economic. Anyway, I wouldn't automatically consider a man AFC who takes a stand even if he loses out on some pvss.

But as far as so many other men being AFC because they make tactical mistakes with women, well this is a good thing in disquise. How would it benefit you if every guy had great game? That'd just be more competition and a higher bar for you to jump. And what more would women have to bring to the table? Nothing.

 

[Colossus]

Becasue these are guys who are in Love with 'love'.
They arent used to regular sex or the intimacy and comppanionship of a woman.

Since the havent had their needs met in a while, they become clingy and possesive in order to secure these women from leaving them.


These are guys who dont really have the skills to manage relationships yet.

It's tough.
I woudln't be so daming and condemning.
After all you are no better than them.

Theyre just guys who dont have it together really, a little immature, and not too in touch with reality. And not too in tune with a woman's 'frequency' so to speak.

The truth is men dont really grow up learning the tools of how to handle emotions.

So they feel something and they think it MUST BE REAL.

They also grow up thinking that is what ALL women want.

"All women NEED to be in a RELATIONSHIP! SO I will GIVE themTHAT!!!'

men grow up not knowing how to manage and feel their emotions maturely and objectively.
ASo they feel them MORE STRONGLY than women.

So they take rejection and Loss of relatiomships MUCH harder than women do.




And they get too attached too quickly.
Its the Emotional Investment Gauge and Switch they need to learn how to use.
And women arent going to do them any favors in teaching them or telling them.

So theyre stuck in a rock and a hard place untill they find a place like this and make that realization.
Its a lot fo societial programming and inexperience combined,add some sexual guilt and shame, or unworthiness, emasculating media and propaganda and you got what you see..

An astute analysis. Props to you, sir.

The stuff i bolded i think is key.

The truth is, men DO take rejection and the loss of an emotional relationship MUCH harder than women. There are a lot of reasons for that, but it boils down to 1) inexperience and 2) as Rollo put it, Generation AFC.

A experienced Don Juan will not allow himself to become emotionally invested in an unproven woman, and even at that he would do so with vigilance and discernment. A DJ will not put all of his stones in one woman's proverbial basket; he will spread them far and wide and experience all different flavors in the wide world so he can better understand himself and develop a solid experience base to make his future choices.

Discerning emotional investment is a mark of experience and maturity. For guys who spend most of their 20's in a handful of LTRs, that experience never really came for them. How much can you know about yourself if you have only been with a few women? Your future judgments are based of what you know, and the more women you interact with the more you get a feel for their 'frequency'. They are not as complicated as they would like you to believe.

 

[frivolousz21]

A experienced Don Juan will not allow himself to become emotionally invested in an unproven woman, and even at that he would do so with vigilance and discernment.

bingo

 

[Luthor Rex]

Another big problem is men equating sex with love.

Personally, when I have sex with a woman, I don't feel a bond form. Any bond I have with a woman forms for other reasons, and the sex can be an expression of that bond, but it's not the bond itself. But, I won't begrudge the guy who only wants to have sex with someone he's in love with. As long as he understand's that's what he wants and changes his dating strategy appropriatly, I don't think there's anything wrong with it.

That being said, I think that you're right about the family problem and that a lot of people aren't wise enough to love. It seems like many people equate 'love' with 'blind love'.

One thing does keep bothering me though, I've noticed a lot of people seem to thing that 'emotionless sex' = 'enlightened sex'. Emotionless-sex stinks of emotional bankruptcy to me. It's like there is some kind of contest for people to run around acting as detached and passionless as possible.

Actually... that's what modern sexuality lacks: PASSION. By passion, I mean it as a 'movement of the soul'. When the characters of Shakespeare's plays were moved to love they were moved by passion: there was an inner force driving the whole of their being. Today, we aren't seeing the full expression of people's human nature driving them to be together; what we see before us now is just the automatic responces of machines.

Going beyond gender-specific issues, we live in a society that discourages personal strength/responsibility in favor of instant gratification and escapism. Both sexes are becoming progressively weaker in character.. more superficial and lacking in substance.

I'd go so far as to say that personal growth is actually discouraged.

Where are the real men? Where are the real WOMEN for that matter? They are locked away behind layers of insecurity, frustration, false beliefs and misguided ideals perpetuated by a world where the only way to get happiness is outside yourself in the form of status, cash and sex.

 

[KarmaSutra]

Generation AFC

One of my best friends wrote a song entitled: Generation A (for Apathy). It's about the state of boy-men as apathetic poopsticks who care for nothing and have no desire to better thier lives.

It got some decent airplay here in the South and on an episode of the Real World New York.

 

[GuanYu]

this may be off the subject, but I can't believe how many gay or feminine men are out there! I remember like 10 years ago or so anyone that was viewed as gay or less then manly was ridiculed, almost like it was a sin to be(which technically I guess it is a sin to be gay), but today people just don't seem to give a damn. Men wearing pink shirts and smacking each others asses is a nono in my book.

Get some fvckin pvssy and stop being weak!