Ok guys me and mate went to a local bar etc,went in the smoking area ,and i caught eyes with this one girl shes was a 9 easy,i could tell she was thinking or wanted to start a convo,but somehow the girl she was standing next to started it with us by asking what nationality r we,anyway my mate starts talking with her ,but u can tell she has no interest for him,we talk for a bit and she starts looking through her bag ,so i pull out my phone knowing she might ask for a number,so shes like can i borrow ur phone i lost mine,its ringing and she ends up finding it in her back pocket ,so she installs my number etc,u could tell she was keen as ,and im like come on the dance floor her friends were draggin her away ,so everytime i saw her throughout the night i would give her a wink u could tell she loved it,whilst going back outside i was talking to these 2 other chicks,and she just comes up and starts to hug me etc get close so next thing i know where pashing lips neck etc,grabbing,and shes like omg ur so hot,and so good she said it a good 10 times,so her friends were dragging her away ,but she didnt want to leave ,as they were going elsewhere so im like give me a call u got my number ,shes like u give me a call u got mine 2 and went off,so i msgd her the next day only bc she seemed so keen,and still havent heard back,im just lost whats with these girls who give out numbers seem so into you and dont msg back for whatever reason ? or msg back couple days later saying i was busy etc etc ,should i call her ? i dont want to come across as way too keen even though shes hot as ,any ideas
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Wait before calling, no exceptions. Because it's a sh1t test. Oh, she might have been totally into you, whilst drunk.
You're a bate, that something someone throws out for a cat to play with. You were interesting, and you must at all times keep that thing moving. Playing. Calling her right away, that's already uninteresting. Since A) you just did what she asked you to do, and B) you're needy.
She might pick up later. But her IL will be low. She might give you an excuse, such as she was asleep because of heavy partying.
The way to pass test is to wait and call her. There you will have a 50/50 chance. To pass it 100%, you wait until she calls you.
For 100% you must be 100%, attraction must be 100%, a lot of 100% things. Usually this don't work because most of us aren't perfect.
A better route for you might have been to create opportunity to isolate her and escalate. Rather than wait for opportunity.
You're a bate, that something someone throws out for a cat to play with. You were interesting, and you must at all times keep that thing moving. Playing. Calling her right away, that's already uninteresting. Since A) you just did what she asked you to do, and B) you're needy.
She might pick up later. But her IL will be low. She might give you an excuse, such as she was asleep because of heavy partying.
The way to pass test is to wait and call her. There you will have a 50/50 chance. To pass it 100%, you wait until she calls you.
For 100% you must be 100%, attraction must be 100%, a lot of 100% things. Usually this don't work because most of us aren't perfect.
A better route for you might have been to create opportunity to isolate her and escalate. Rather than wait for opportunity.
nah she wasnt drunk but she and her friends were looking around for coke,i dunno if that makes a diff in her attitude etc,thing is how am i needy, i mean its the guys that make the first move , i doubt any chick especially at a club would call u up before u called her up, and thing is what difference would it have made if i isolated her,i mean we were pashing full on ,the works it would have been no different if we were in some corner by ourselves ,thats what i think anyway,thanks for ur advice stuntmann 
ohh btw i sent her a text ,i didnt call her i know most of you think thats bad
ohh btw i sent her a text ,i didnt call her i know most of you think thats badDJ1234
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you ever get the idea that she might be busy when you happened to try and contact her? How long did you wait after you sent her the msg? You can't always expect them to call back the minute you call at all times even if their IL is High....I would just wait and see but don't start getting desperate/needy and txting her and calling her 12983472913084 times to see if she got your msg, why she didn't respond,etc...
After that if she doesn't attempt to contact you back just go w/ standard procedure and next her...
After that if she doesn't attempt to contact you back just go w/ standard procedure and next her...
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.