Where does religion come in?

[gtownjuan]

Are much exaggerated attempts to find and link between DJism and Religion i have come to this point. Where does religion tie into DJism. I note that there was one suggestion in the FAQ on "The DJ Bible" link below that DJism can strengten your belief in GOD but i'm confused to know how.

I see myself being pulled between two driving forces;

Worship of the self and self improvement, taking responsibility for your every action and thoughts, and thus shaping your DESTINY as a successful MAN for as long as you still CAN And thus become remembered forever as lucky / gifted / inhuman / godly / or other AFC believes.

OR

the sacred belief that GOD exists and is present in everything, created everything, has gifted you special talents and abilities to carry out special tasks he has set forth for your DESTINY and intimately live ETERNALLY with him in heaven . So therefore you must supplicate to his will and trust in him in all time and situation, thus relying on him for the answers to everything unknown to you.

Currently the believes portrayed above are of what i think at my current LEVEL of understanding and I am in no position to regard them as THE ONLY WAY. I therefore am open to all view of anyone that holds themself knowledgeable on any of these topics.

I have only one question, how can your life as a DJ be related to your life as a religious person.

 

[KontrollerX]

Lots of the early DJ's here were Bible Thumpers or had a semi belief in some greater god or force.

A whole lot of magical unnecessary matrix thinking if you ask me considering this place is about freeing us of societal illusions and thus empowering us with that newfound mental freedom but since I am a former Christian I'll play along and help you out if you are of a religious inclination...

Being a DJ can tie into your god belief because most of the religious persuasion believe that their god intends for they and others that believe in that god to be blessed and have the best things in life but of course the believer has to work for those things to get their rewards in this life. (you don't have to work for salvation if you're a christian since that is a free gift given from Jesus Christ)

For example the Christian teaching "you reap what you sow" goes to show that if you plant a seed of a certain thing it will grow into that certain thing if proper care is made ie good watering and soil for the seed so if you wish to become a bodybuilder and put in the work ie plant the seeds of bodybuilding you will eventually become a muscle head freak of nature and thus reap your reward for all your hard work.

Its the same with becoming a DJ or anything really.

Plant the seeds of change and reap your reward accordingly.

Also the idea of becoming a DJ has you burning away your impurities and becoming the man you truly are capable of being underneath all of the sludge.

The burning away of impurities with fire is also another Christian concept of seperating the wheat from the chaff when god has the angels seperate the wicked from the righteous after death or at the end of time when the final judgement occurs.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Where does religion tie into DJism?

Do you mean religious philosophy or the organized practice of a religion, like going to church? The philosophy is often very different from the practice.

 

[bigjohnson]

Wow, it seems like if you're looking to a place like this for a life course setting philosophy your issues are pretty deep seated.

 

[MooseGod]

Wow, it seems like if you're looking to a place like this for a life course setting philosophy your issues are pretty deep seated.

That's more of a half-truth. If you read the bible (the DJ bible, that is) it really has some good advice on how to live a productive and purposeful life. If you just get your advice from the crappy threads on how to bang as many chicks as possible, then you failed to grasp the big picture.

 

[everywomanshero]

Religion & DJ: Well you could PU chicks at church... that way you get women & spirituality all in one shot!

There are probably much better theologions available than what you'll find on an internet forum regarding one's love life. I've never read the FAQ nor would I ever label myself a PUA or DJ or anything else like that. I am me and I don't need some stereotype to attach myself to. I suggest not trying to live up to some artificial standard or stereotype, I think it's better that way.

 

[I.A.F.Y.B.]

There is a preacher named Joel Osteen. He is kind of famous you could say. He is on the christian channel and has been on Larry King. Now, wether you believe in Christianity is your choice. But, everytime I see him on tv he always has a smile on his face. He always has a positive attitude and IMP some good advice. He even has a book called "Becoming a Better You." The point is with his faith and beliefs.. He doesn't look back on the past but, moves forward. If someting gets him down he can still have a good attitude and get back up to try again. He always trys his best every day and ect. Which, is what some of us need to learn.

 

[KontrollerX]

Yeah Joel Osteen is a damned positive person whether you believe in Christianity or not.

As is Robert Schuler and his son who also at times pastors on the Hour of Power tv show.

Some have argued they talk more about positivity than Christianity and as a result have no business preaching Christianity but who cares if you are an atheist or agnostic just tuning in for a positive message.

 

[bigjohnson]

That's more of a half-truth.

Apparently opinions differ, but I stand by my statement. If someone wants to know how things work then yes, it's useful, but as a deeper religious type deal, no way. It could serve as such, but it's weak.

 

[everywomanshero]

This may or may not be true (don't shoot the messenger), but in my college speech class when we talked about Olsteen I was told that he never really accomplished anything on his own.

Basically, he worked behind the scenes in his dad's sermon biz until the old fart was almost ready to move on. Then he just took over his father's church. His book (I think he has a new one out now) was a hit, but that may only be because of his Dad's big name brought him into an insta-spotlight kind of like a male Paris Hilton or something. Doesn't really sound like someone who has been out in the world most of us live in to me, but perhaps I am confounding the message with the messenger.

 

[gtownjuan]

A whole lot of magical unnecessary matrix thinking if you ask me considering this place is about freeing us of societal illusions and thus empowering us with that newfound mental freedom.

So you're saying that DJ and GOD, or any other mystical believes for that matter, are are not NECESSARILY interrelated. Well that explains why many DJ's here are not very religiously inclined and thus why i cannot find any worth wild material linking DJism to religion. The purpose of this site then is abolish us of all social slavery and inspire us to follow our own goals in life, realising our true potential.

Being a DJ can tie into your god belief because most of the religious persuasion believe that their god intends for they and others that believe in that god to be blessed and have the best things in life but of course the believer has to work for those things to get their rewards in this life. (you don't have to work for salvation if you're a christian since that is a free gift given from Jesus Christ)

For example the Christian teaching "you reap what you sow" goes to show that if you plant a seed of a certain thing it will grow into that certain thing if proper care is made ie good watering and soil for the seed so if you wish to become a bodybuilder and put in the work ie plant the seeds of bodybuilding you will eventually become a muscle head freak of nature and thus reap your reward for all your hard work.

Its the same with becoming a DJ or anything really.

Plant the seeds of change and reap your reward accordingly.

Also the idea of becoming a DJ has you burning away your impurities and becoming the man you truly are capable of being underneath all of the sludge.

The burning away of impurities with fire is also another Christian concept of seperating the wheat from the chaff when god has the angels seperate the wicked from the righteous after death or at the end of time when the final judgement occurs.

I understand now that religion and DJism are two seperate yet connected things. Seperate to the fact that you can either be one VS the other or the fact that one strengtens the belief in the other.

They oppose each other to the fact where DJ's completely disregard religion and pursue the pleasures of the self whilst strong fainted believers dedicate themselves to their faith even with no guaranteed promise of external and physical satisfaction.

As you have portrayed DJism can in fact, reinforce religious believes. This is done by realizing how society has degraded the world and not falling for that crap.

So be a DJ and follow the info on this site to enlighten your mind. Spiritual and mystical beliefs are up to you.

 

[DonGorgon]

LOL....religion comes in where ever you want it to.

 

[KontrollerX]

Yeah I think you got the meaning behind my post pretty well gtownjuan.

Being a DJ and being religious are totally seperate things but because of the nature of being a DJ if you are religious you can link the two and get some form of good benefit out of it.

Really though I think to embrace the path of DJ and still be religious waters down what it means to be a DJ quite a bit because you are still buying into a societal illusion and control mechanism with the religious part of yourself but to each their own I suppose.

 

[Poonani Maker]

I just asked an 88 year old woman last night at church to show me her hands trying to see if her ring finger was longer than her index finger. It wasn't; therefore, I told her that she probably only did "girly" things as child and she agreed. Another old lady had a long ring finger in relation to her index finger and said she was a tomboy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOKA0V1vvvY