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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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Where Do You Guys Usually Take Women/Girls Out?

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Micheal Moon

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I know this is a generic borderline newbie question but I'm just interested in the responses.

Me and this girl made plans for Friday when she says she's free. The plus is, she has a high IL, so I pretty much don't have to screw up and things should be cool.

I've hung out w/ female friends over the last year, but this its been a while since I've been on a formal "date" ( i really hate that word, but its the best word for this question I guess).

Anyways I want to keep is fun and loose. So I was thinking a bar or a club, checking a movie, or probably just getting something to eat. From reading Anti Dumps posts, the best thing for guys is "action dates"

What do you guys usually do? My past first "dates" have been movies and those ones always turned out pretty "eh". I was thinking if there was something different you guys usually do.

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Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

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So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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It's been said many times, but it always holds true.......never "date" until after you are fukking her.

What do you do? You hang out. You do whatever you want to do. You aren't a three ring circus.....don't feel the need to entertain her. Yea, you gotta keep it interesting and create attraction, but an action date is basically a crutch to lean on to keep the mood light and fun.

"Dating" creates expectations and sets the frame squarely on her side.
 
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You do whatever you want to do.

Yes. Do what is fun for you. Then you are a 'fun guy' and she will have a good time. Trying to impress her or do what she wants, show her a good time, all of that is the wrong frame. Have fun yourself, and she will, too.
 
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From reading Anti Dumps posts, the best thing for guys is "action dates"
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Well, not for the first date. Maybe the 4th. First, just get to know her. Any of your ideas are good, or a cafe.
 

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You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Bible_Belt said:
You do whatever you want to do.

Yes. Do what is fun for you. Then you are a 'fun guy' and she will have a good time. Trying to impress her or do what she wants, show her a good time, all of that is the wrong frame. Have fun yourself, and she will, too.
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A big part of the attraction process is "bringing a woman into your world". Women LIVE for that. She attaches her value to the value she perceives her man to possess.

You will attract a woman infinitely faster by bringing her into your world as opposed to trying to adapt to what you perceive hers to be to appease her.
 
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And what if you are the kind of guy who doesn't do anything? Bring her to my house and have her watch me browse sosuave :D

I think taking her out for lunch or for coffee is a good first "hang out."
 
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Lunch might be a bit tight, because if the conversation isn't so great you'll feel awkward. BUT you said she has high IL. As such, any place should work out.
 
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