"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Where did i go wrong....

Charlie_aus

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This forum has never put me wrong, but this time I must have made a mistake.

The scenario:

I am in a LTR.

A girl at work shows some interest and we end up making out. She knows I am in a LTR and she came out of a LTR about 2 years ago. She I think is a bit gun shy. (I am not proud of two timing but maybe that should tell me something)

I go to her house one night and we all but fvck.

Then a few days later I hit her up for coffee but she was really unwell (which I know was true).

Over the next 10 days or so we end up making out at various times at work. She is pretty keen for it, offers no resistance and thats all sweet. We cant fvck becuase we are at work.

I play it a little hard and when she asks me for certain favours I turn her down, I dont text or call her much. She has paid me compliments about how I look and I accept them without a return compliment etc etc....

I have phoned her a few times in the last few days when she complained that I was being very uncaring or some shyt.

Anyway we had coffee the other night, but were both limited for time so that went nowhere as we both had to go.

I tried the other night to get to her house for coffee and told her i was coming over but she was out.

My gut feeling is the IL is going down, and I havent noticed quite the same "knowing" looks at work from her, though we still talk the same way we normally would.

I was wondering if I should NEXT or try once more in a few days?

She has told me she is scared of being hurt and I tried to reassure her, but as usual females never tell you what they want to do!! :confused:

At the moment I am just playing it as normal. She obviously likes me and she about a HB6.

She has invited me out once at the very begining so I could just let her do the work?

I am sick of sneaking it in at work, and want to move it outside company time. My house is out and she dont seem to let me get to her house last time I tried (tho I did get their once in the past when her parents were out - i dunno mayube she dont want me to meet the parents?)

She still does nice things for me like brings me dinners n stuff.

What ya reckon people - did i screw it? (if so where)

Its it possible to salvage?

-Charlie
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Oblivious

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Why are you in a LTR if you are trying to get with this chick and other chicks? Just curious?
 

Funkopotamus

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Originally posted by Charlie_aus

I have phoned her a few times in the last few days when she complained that I was being very uncaring or some shyt.


-Charlie
That was your test my man, and I think you did poorly. She was fishing to see exactly how you would react.

Second of all she may just be a "nice" girl and will not give up the all out sex untill she drags you away from your LTR.
 

NewMan

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cool it off from your point of view. Don't call. let her initiate the contact (but don't got out of your way to avoid her - just act normally but don't call).

she's right to wonder where this goes - because you are in an LTR and you just want to fvck her. Think that over.

You work with her.

If you fvck and run - that could be problematic in the future.

In general - you should not fvck someone you work with.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Oblivious

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He is just a slut too and even worse because he has the ties with the girlfriend not the new chick. He crossed the boundary and had every chance to tell the girl to step off but he didn't. I hope he isn't one of those guys who is always talking about they can't find a good woman. Thats what happens what good women, men with ill intentions and no self control.
 
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