Where are these lonely single men at?

[CornbreadFed]

Most guys I see outside in public are in relationships and whenever I go out to drink in the younger crowd bar areas, there's a lot of single women. I have been hearing about this lonely single man epidemic, but I am not seeing it at all.

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

Men are not as social as women, most of us generally go out in public loud expensive places only with the desire to meet women.

Once a guy realizes that his high achievable target is worse than no target at all, he simply drops it all and find peace at home or in reserved places where he is not robbed or stressed.

Please lets spare the part about self improvement and game...an average guy in his early 30s has a pretty accurate estimate based on exsperience and direct observation of what he can/cant get out of his evironment.

So 4 guy friends would rather play pool and drink in someones house while 4 single girl friends would rather stay in a loud public place.

But to give a straight direct answer to your question is, you dont see them out cause they realized it doesnt work for most of them.

 

[SW15]

Most guys I see outside in public are in relationships and whenever I go out to drink in the younger crowd bar areas, there's a lot of single women. I have been hearing about this lonely single man epidemic, but I am not seeing it at all.

Most bars are sausagefests with men outnumbering women. Even with a certain number men dropping out of the market, there's still an excess of thirsty men out there.

Look at how men vastly outnumber women on Tinder, Bumble, and Hinge too.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Men are not as social as women, most of us generally go out in public loud expensive places only with the desire to meet women.

Once a guy realizes that his high achievable target is worse than no target at all, he simply drops it all and find peace at home or in reserved places where he is not robbed or stressed.

Please lets spare the part about self improvement and game...an average guy in his early 30s has a pretty accurate estimate based on exsperience and direct observation of what he can/cant get out of his evironment.

So 4 guy friends would rather play pool and drink in someones house while 4 single girl friends would rather stay in a loud public place.

But to give a straight direct answer to your question is, you dont see them out cause they realized it doesnt work for most of them.

But isn't this inactive/defeatist mentality the reason they cannot find a woman. The forever alone single guys I know would rather do everything that repels women and expect a hot girl to fall in their laps from the clouds magically.

Most bars are sausagefests with men outnumbering women. Even with a certain number men dropping out of the market, there's still an excess of thirsty men out there.

Look at how men vastly outnumber women on Tinder, Bumble, and Hinge too.

Must be Dallas because it is the exact opposite here lol.

 

[holidayad_]

After I end my relationship, I developed the habit of going to pubs or quieter bars on weekdays. I like it, it's comfortable, and there are usually women there alone.

 

[NealIRC]

Good reverse question.

But incels can be found on-line heavily. In real life, I can be found in beaches and street fests. Some girls with boyfriends, have spotted me at multiple street fests.

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

But isn't this inactive/defeatist mentality the reason they cannot find a woman. The forever alone single guys I know would rather do everything that repels women and expect a hot girl to fall in their laps from the clouds magically.

The reason they cannot find a woman is most of the cases a low LMS score, it has nothing do to with their effort into going to clubs or bars.

If something works men do it, if it doesnt work they stop doing it...it's really that simple.

If you hit clubs and bars for years with no result, it makes sense to drop it.

The only mindset that could help them would be self improving when possible but even there unless you got it all wrong your entire life, hardly you can get more than 1 or 1.5 points.

Some probably dropped it all not cause they cant get anything but they dont want anything available there.

 

[The Duke]

It all depends on the venue. Country dance bars, karaoke bars, and upscale lounges will almost always have slightly more women.

 

[corrector]

Most guys I see outside in public are in relationships and whenever I go out to drink in the younger crowd bar areas, there's a lot of single women. I have been hearing about this lonely single man epidemic, but I am not seeing it at all.

Most people on outdoor trails by the lake are with someone. Whether relationship or friend or family, it's rare to see anyone there really by themselves. These venues are magnets especially for couples to enjoy their time out on a nice summer day.

 

[Gamisch]

Girls just wanna have fu-hun. Ooh girls just wanna have...

@Fortune_favors_the_bold explains it perfectly. Plus, looking at his user name that's also what's going on. The "brave "men indeed know their smv is high enough to interest and attract women. They know that if you go out 10 times you might get lucky 3 times. The other men think and believe and /or know they'll just waste their time and money while getting "nothing " in return. They basically say they want instant gratification.

And that's why OLD is a sausage fest. Because the " other 25% " of women rather going out, hang with friends ect and actually enjoying it. They will still increase their chances of meeting a good prospect out of nowhere by doing this.

Some of the incels I know also dont "like to play pool" on a Friday or Saturday night. They dont like to (as i always say) " sit down and watch some azz". What type of man doesn't like to shoot pool with a homie while giving himself the opportunity to meet women? They'll rather drive to a place where there are only dudes to smoke some herbs.

Ironically enough they'll spend crazy amounts of money if they'd somehow manage to get a hb6 on a date once every 2 years. That's the fecking problem. They are willing to spend money on such a woman, but unwilling to spend half of that amount to go eat a steak with their homies.

 

[SW15]

Most bars are sausagefests with men outnumbering women. Even with a certain number men dropping out of the market, there's still an excess of thirsty men out there.

Must be Dallas because it is the exact opposite here lol.

This isn't a factor unique to Dallas. I saw it in cities where I lived prior to Dallas and some cities where I went on vacation and happened to go out to a bar.

Certain cities have way too many men. The San Francisco Bay Area is one because of all the thirsty tech aspie guys there. San Diego has an abundance of penis due to the nearby military bases. Midland-Odessa, Texas has a lot of oil & gas field workers and is a total sausagefest too.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Some of the incels I know also dont "like to play pool" on a Friday or Saturday night. They dont like to (as i always say) " sit down and watch some azz". What type of man doesn't like to shoot pool with a homie while giving himself the opportunity to meet women? They'll rather drive to a place where there are only dudes to smoke some herbs.

This part rings a bell. I know plenty of men like this and they just play the hope strategy of a woman magically falling from the clouds in to their lap. If they do find a chick, they have the worst scarcity/desperate mentality ever.

 

[SW15]

I know plenty of men like this and they just play the hope strategy of a woman magically falling from the clouds in to their lap. If they do find a chick, they have the worst scarcity/desperate mentality ever.

There's truth to this. I think a lot of men underestimate how much time they'll need to devote to approaching/searching for a girlfriend.

A lot of men need to up their activity levels. For a socially calibrated man, that means going out of the home on more nights a week, which can be draining after working a full day. Some socially uncalibrated men will up their activities by spam approaching in public. The most common way men up their activity is spending more time swiping through the apps in their cities, followed by sending more DMs on social media platforms.

It all depends on the venue. Country dance bars, karaoke bars, and upscale lounges will almost always have slightly more women.

I haven't spent enough time in enough of these venues. In a city where I previously lived, I spent some time in a Country Western bar with dancing and a dance floor and I did not notice more women than men in this venue.

 

[CornbreadFed]

There's truth to this. I think a lot of men underestimate how much time they'll need to devote to approaching/searching for a girlfriend.

A lot of men need to up their activity levels. For a socially calibrated man, that means going out of the home on more nights a week, which can be draining after working a full day. Some socially uncalibrated men will up their activities by spam approaching in public. The most common way men up their activity is spending more time swiping through the apps in their cities, followed by sending more DMs on social media platforms.

This is why I prefer the apps regardless of the BS because it allowed me to spend my free time at the gym, working on myself, hanging out with friends, and travelling rather than going to clubs/bars every weekend and wasting money/calories on stupid shvt. If you are on swipe apps and spend your free time playing video games/clubbing/not building yourself then yes you will never get results you desire. I did my first dates on every day except Friday and Saturday evenings which were reserved for girls in my rotation or building stages.

 

[SW15]

This is why I prefer the apps regardless of the BS because it allowed me to spend my free time at the gym, working on myself, hanging out with friends, and travelling rather than going to clubs/bars every weekend and wasting money/calories on stupid shvt. If you are on swipe apps and spend your free time playing video games/clubbing/not building yourself then yes you will never get results you desire. I did my first dates on every day except Friday and Saturday evenings which were reserved for girls in my rotation or building stages.

Your line of thinking is why some guys choose to do approaches and try to arrange dates with women at their gyms. They need to exercise so they might as well use their exercise time to do a few approaches.

This is somewhat of a justification for co-ed sports leagues as well, though that argument is a little bit faulty. In the late 2000s/early 2010s, kickball had a moment of immense popularity. Most of the reasons men were playing kickball in those days was as an attempt to meet women. Although kickball's popularity seems to be off its peak of 10-15 years ago, it still seems popular. Men wouldn't play kickball if it weren't for pussie. Softball is similar too. With sand volleyball and soccer, there's at least a chance the man was into that sport and would play it if pussie weren't a motivating factor.

Tennis is one of the most female friendly sports in theory. In reality, it's a bit of a sausagefest.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Your line of thinking is why some guys choose to do approaches and try to arrange dates with women at their gyms. They need to exercise so they might as well use their exercise time to do a few approaches.

gym girls tend to be butter faces, attention *****s, and not worth the potential humiliation imho

 

[SW15]

gym girls tend to be butter faces, attention *****s, and not worth the potential humiliation imho

You go to an expensive gym currently too.

The higher end chains like Equinox and Lifetime attract a different clientele than a 24 Hour, LA Fitness, or Planet Fitness.

 

[TheEveningChronograph]

When you pull up to a stoplight, look to your left and right. When you go inside a truckstop, look around. They are definitely drinking alone at home, comfortably, taking cost-cutting measures against inflation. It's no secret. Open your eyes.

 

[CornbreadFed]

You go to an expensive gym currently too.

The higher end chains like Equinox and Lifetime attract a different clientele than a 24 Hour, LA Fitness, or Planet Fitness.

yeah if you go at a certain time of the day, it’s full of only fans thotties and boss babes. I do have a few girls that stalk me, one is obviously married too.

 

[SW15]

yeah if you go at a certain time of the day, it’s full of only fans thotties and boss babes. I do have a few girls that stalk me, one is obviously married too.

I have seen some hotties at my gym that look like they would likely post sexy pics on Instagram or OnlyFans. My gym is more on par with an LA Fitness.

What do you define is a boss babe? The attractive women with more corporate type jobs? A lot of those women are married.

I would imagine Equinox to be mainly married women, slightly older (30s/40s minimum).