"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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When you randomly approcah a girl and she gives you her number...

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what is the likelihood that she is just giving it to you because she is afraid to say "no" or just doesn't want to hurt your feelings..

Just wondering, because I seem to have no trouble number closing(*knock on wood*), but it usually doesn't go much further than that...
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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It means nothing cause pretty girls get randomly approached all the time and will give their numbers to almost anyone... Phone numbers no longer equal PU$$Y like they did in the 1980's.. A girl may give you her # and not even answer your calls at all... You would start doing the same if you had 20 women a day asking for your number....
 

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The answer is: it depends on the impression you made on the girl during your approach. A girl will only give you her number 'to get rid of you' if you gave off a bad or creepy vibe or something.

Instead of worrying about getting fake numbers, get to the root cause of the problem, which is YOU. Work on bettering yourself and bettering the vibe you project when you approach a woman. Before you approach a girl, ask yourself "How can I brighten her day a little?".

Basically, if a girl gets good feelings from being around you, she is far less likely to give you a flakey number.

One thing you're all missing, though, is that you should ONLY get a girl's number as a last resort. You should try to get to go for a cup of coffee with you there and then. If logistics are not possible, for whatever reason, ONLY THEN do you settle for the number.

I've found this a better and more efficient approach.

Hope that helps.
 

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Guitar_Whizz said:
The answer is: it depends on the impression you made on the girl during your approach. A girl will only give you her number 'to get rid of you' if you gave off a bad or creepy vibe or something.

Instead of worrying about getting fake numbers, get to the root cause of the problem, which is YOU. Work on bettering yourself and bettering the vibe you project when you approach a woman. Before you approach a girl, ask yourself "How can I brighten her day a little?".

Basically, if a girl gets good feelings from being around you, she is far less likely to give you a flakey number.

One thing you're all missing, though, is that you should ONLY get a girl's number as a last resort. You should try to get to go for a cup of coffee with you there and then. If logistics are not possible, for whatever reason, ONLY THEN do you settle for the number.

I've found this a better and more efficient approach.

Hope that helps.
^ that is also true but if becomes hard to get noticed when she get 20 numbers a day... We need to have some good gimmicks to stand out.. like maybe a puppet or a Rolls royce..
 

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DonGorgon said:
^ that is also true but if becomes hard to get noticed when she get 20 numbers a day... We need to have some good gimmicks to stand you.. like maybe a puppet or a Rolls royce..
No you don't need gimmicks or all that nonsense. Gimmicks are just FALSE ways of making up for a lack of value that you project.

Instead, learn to project the aura of a confident, fun, masculine man, and you'll have no problem making a knockout impression.

And did you read what I said? I said you should be trying for INSTANT DATES, not phone numbers. Seriously, every chump is asking for her number; you want to stand out by being the MAN and asking her to join you for coffee there and then. This is how you get same day lays consistently. As I said, ONLY get a number if for whatever reason an INSTANT DATE was not possible.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Guitar_Whizz said:
No you don't need gimmicks or all that nonsense. Gimmicks are just FALSE ways of making up for a lack of value that you project.

Instead, learn to project the aura of a confident, fun, masculine man, and you'll have no problem making a knockout impression.

And did you read what I said? I said you should be trying for INSTANT DATES, not phone numbers. Seriously, every chump is asking for her number; you want to stand out by being the MAN and asking her to join you for coffee there and then. This is how you get same day lays consistently. As I said, ONLY get a number if for whatever reason an INSTANT DATE was not possible.
^^^Brilliantly true...:cheer:
 

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"This is how you get same day lays consistently."

Who's to say we all want same day lays? I personally don't want some sl*t that spreads a minute after any random stranger says "hi" to her.
 
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