"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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"when you call me tonight" should I really not call?

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I just went hiking today for about 3 hrs with this girl and her dog. We were co workers years ago and I contacted her on facebook and she suggested we hang out. It was a little rocky at firs tmaking convo but it picked up and we were flirting and laughing with a little kino and neg hits.

I hugged her bye because this was the first time I had seen her in 2 years and I didn't want her to think that I was anywhere near the same type of person I was when we worked together (I was into some heavy stuff back then and I didn't care if anyone knew that I was really easy). As we were saying bye she said something about "when you call me tonight" and I was like the same day after we hang out? In your dreams. And then it ramped up until she was like if you don't call me then we'll never see each other again. She was talking in general, not tonight.

She and I def had a good time and it's obvious she wants a second date. She's got a strong personality though so I know that if I turn bvch on her she'll abuse it if not get bored and drop me. Even years ago I could see us being together, and I know she could too (she had a bf and she's 3 yrs older than me, which makes her 24 now, which at age 18 and as her subordinate at work would have been AWKWARD). Originally I wasn't going ot call her until wednsday to see what she's up to for the next week (we're both really busy so advance scheduling doesn't work). I might text her tonight letting her know that I put some black and white pics up on facebook of the hike as sort of meeting her halfway because I contacted her but didn't call. The other option I was considering was calling her tomorrow sometime to let her know that I put the pics up.

She doesn't get out of work until 11 PM, so I've got some time. Any help?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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call her.

after all you just hung out, you HUGGED her goodbye. so far i see nothing along the lines of being whipped or what not.

call her and be a little playful...you both apparently had a good time, and you both apparently want to see eachother again, what's the sense of hiding it.
 

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That sounds very reasonable. I don't want to sound so petty as if I'm trying to make her call me or make her wait. She'll probably give me some **** about it, but I'll just have to say something about feeling bad knowing she'd cry herself to sleep had I not called.
 

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there you go! just make sure the way you say it is playful (and she knows that) and ur good to go.
 

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Yeah... so I called and she was still at work. She picked up and the girls she works with were all giggling and her voice was obviously jittery like she was excited that I called. I did the neg hit about her crying and she responded well. We talked for like 10-15 min, and I was about to be like ok I'm going to get back to my stuff. Just as I was starting to say that she was like can I call you back in 15 and I was like I won't even be through my materials and methods anion exchange section of the lab I'm trying to complete, so she was like ok how about half an hour. Apparently she wanted to hang out with me tonight but I went back up to college (she graduated last year) and that's like 40 min away, which is def too far since we just met.

I'm nervous that her wanting to chill twice in one day means she's already got me pigeon-holed as a friend...
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Deadly_Ripped said:
I'm nervous that her wanting to chill twice in one day means she's already got me pigeon-holed as a friend...
hmmm...that would constitute as negative talk, correct? You should be thinking like she want's to bone. You should invite her over and show her the pics on your computer!
 

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Or...you can get a second date.

Technically, you should have pushed the next date on the first date, or soon thereafter.

Push for the next date, get her EXCITED and ANTICIPATIVE for the date, and be sure to get her THINKING about you and how she'll have FUN.
 

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Dude just go for it! It sounds like you could possibly like this chick some already. If 40 minutes is too much for you to drive,then have her meet you halfway or tell her to come over to your place,DUH! It sounds like she is relly digging you and BAM,that's all you need. You're like Burger King, having it your way!
 

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pushing you as a friend? no way.

you should of pushed for the date as someone said, but that doesn't mean you still can't. next time you talk to her make one. go from there.

from personal experience, i see nothing but positives coming from this. don't stop!
 

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We talked on the phone for almost an hour after she got off of work.

We laughed and talked and there was a little flirting.
We're both really busy, and she was once again when we went to hang up she was like ok talk to you next time you call me.

I was like huh? No I called you at 11:30 and even though you called me back a little later that was just a broken conversation it's your turn. She was all like I'm going to keep track but if you really want to get serious about it when it's your turn to call I'll just delete your number from my phone.

I just kept pushing her about it and not taking no for an answer for her to call me next, and eventually she was like "please please give me a call because I really don't want to have to do that. I tend to overthinks things so yeah please call me." and I was like ok, because you said please. And she was like "ok good because yeah I overthink things and really I don't want the added stress."

It seems like she's already flustered about this, and she even asked if I would be in town tomorrow (which of course I said I wouldn't be able to).

I didn't set anything up and when she said next weekend I didn't give her a solid answer beacuse to be honest I am WAY to busy to be planning that **** in advance. The last thing I need is A) to cancel on her after a week of buildup or B) to sacrifice academic performance to the pursuit of pootie tang. She seemed to really be diggin talking to me though. I love a woman who can ramble about anything other than themselves or things that happened today or yesterday or will be happening tomorrow.
 

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she sounds interested...and insecure at the same time.

interested cuz she pushs (what seems like) hard to get you to call her and hang out with her.

and insecure because of this whole call thing...where she might think that you might be playing her, some kind of 'using' of her.
 
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