When Wingmen (Friends) are BETA'S and WBAFC'S

[Capodeciña]

How do you game?

When AMOGING goes wrong how do you transition yourself? Now, the majority of my friends have no fvcking clue of picking up, inner-game, outer-game or socialising with PEOPLE let alone any females.

When they attempt to game or be wingmen. They AMOG the wrong way and eventually it fails in any type of set/s.

I'm the only single-bodied guy within the group who has layed, approached, most G/F'S. Yet, they say every single weekender "I want to get some girls tonight .."

They FAIL. It's lonely at the top because sometimes you gotta dumb down you're game to make them feel better and not be left out. Well I'm highly considering changing this mindset.

I think one of them (high-school buddy) has had like 1 LAY (prostitute) and no G/F his entire 22 years. I've never seen him approach and get away with a number. NEVER. Yet you would think this guy has been learning and watching David DeAngelo's PUA videos by the way he boasts himself.

After yesterday, I was AMOGED the wrong way, the drunk bytch who had a B/F was reversing ****y and funny onto me, she was interested, yet whenever she made a ****y joke towards me, they'd AMOG on it and it fvcked with my social-proof. These guys only attempt to approach on younger girls from 17-18, because its EASIER. SMH. and even then they still crash n burn. Then backpeddle and call the girl "Ugly"

Because these guys have no fvcking clue about closing, they think any attempt to AMOG/ out-BETA on one another will eventually get them the girl. I always LMAO at this. This is a pothead mentality.

Suggestions on a remedy SoSuave?

 

[Scion]

New friends?

 

[Kailex]

When Michael Jordan was the best basketball player in the world... do you think he was lowering his game so that the rest of the Chicago Bulls could feel more on his level?

Don't do the same.

And if they are crashing your game, ditch them on nights where you want to game. Go out with them on nights where it's just going to be just the guys hanging out.

I actually had this problem a few years back with my best friend, and I did just that. You've virtually created a situation where they are cvck blocking you unintentionally (trust me, they think they are being funny but they don't know the joke isn't just on you).

What I did was I stopped taking my best friend to places where I knew I'd meet women. He eventually brought it up and I had a serious chat with him about why I was doing it. He understood and became a little more self-conscious and definitely became a LOT better wing-man to the point where I was winging for him.

If these guys are your REAL friends, you can make a point of telling them and maybe even giving them tips. But DO expect for one or two of them to respond with "WHATEVER" because you might be breaking a fact to them but to them it sounds like you are putting them down.

Still, I'd say, ditch them on nights where you want to go out and get your game on.

 

[handle]

Yeah, I have friends like these guys. And they're fun to just chill with at the apartment from time to time, but I don't go out on that kind of night with them. If they're killing you out there then don't let them -- go with some other buddies who know what's up.

 

[thecurtainfalls]

Most of us have friends like this. Not a fun situation. In fact my best friend and roommate (although he's getting slightly better) is way overweight, hasn't been laid in about 5 years, and doesn't seem to care. Yet he ends up being at a lot of my social functions because he is actually a really great guy and my best friend, but it annoys me sometimes because of the way he'll talk about girls I'm dating/plates I'm spinning... in fact one of the times we were out recently, a girl that I've hooked up with in the past and am semi-dating at the moment gave him a friendly hug when she saw him, and my roommate went on and on for the next 2 weeks about how great her tits felt against his chest. I mean, that's great that he's not gay or something, but it kind of offended me in a way, like dude get your own targets instead of creeping on mine all the time.

It's a very delicate situation and to be honest I have absolutely no idea what to do about it. He has otherwise been an amazing friend to me and is a very good roommate, but forget about trying to sarge with him.