“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

Read more...

When Will the Tat Movement Finally Run It's Course?

Maximus Rex

Banned
Joined
Apr 8, 2005
Messages
2,265
Reaction score
446
Location
Villa Regis
Rex is very much "anti-tat," for females, long story short, I don't like tattoos and Fred feels as it tats do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to make a woman sexier, prettier, more seductive, etc. At the least the tat is just there, at most, a tat detracts from her beauty and she loses anywhere from a half to a half-of-a-point on the ten point must scale, but forgive my digression.

My question is this, when do y'all think this tattoo fad, (and believe me, it's a ****ing fad,) will start to wane. My boy says in about four to five years. I say in about fifteen to twenty years, when youngsters see the mutha****as who got these ****s in their younger days and see how ridiculous that **** looks when the tat isn't touched up and more importantly when the skin starts to sag an wrinkle. Youngsters are going to do the following concerning tats:

1) Not get as many

2) Get them in places that can be covered by clothing.

I also feel that the younger generation are going to associate tattoos with being "old," and shy away from them and since so many people have them (especially older cats,) the way youngsters are going to show that they're different is by not getting a tattoo.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

Jaylan

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 8, 2011
Messages
3,119
Reaction score
133
People of many ages and backgrounds have been getting tattoos for thousands of years. They aren't going anywhere. And young people will love them for a long time to come. I have a sleeve I'm completing on my right arm. I have a small chest piece as well. They both have meaning to me and aren't meant to be purely decorative. They are tributes to those who have been inspirational in my life.

Regarding women with tattoos, it depends on the girl and the tattoos. Some girls pull off tats better than other. And some girls I like without tattoos. I don't like a girl who's over inked, and I prefer she not have any around her chest area. But to each their own. I see hot girls with and without tattoos. I just like that the tattoos are properly placed and the artwork look like it goes together to form a good combined look, rather than several totally unrelated pieces that don't fit together.

I must say a lot of guys here are really stringent about how they feel people should behave and think. Dudes can be overly judgmental about crap like tats and hair as well. I simply don't give much a care. Everyone's different and there's tons of people out there in the world to be friends with or date. So there's not really a shortage of the kind of people most of us look for.

That said, tats and hair aren't too indicative of a persons character or personality. I can rock a business suit during the week and look like your average work guy....then on the weekends put in my ear plugs, wear tee shirts that show my tattoo, and where my old eyebrow or lip ring if I feel like it. However, I rarely wear my piercings anymore. I limit myself to my small ear plugs and that's it.

However, I will say that not every "alternative" person is as smart as me and some other folks I know. We made sure to get tattoos in places that business attire could cover. Nor did we get piercings in places that super stand out. And we never stretched our ears past a size that would be noticeable when jewelry wasn't in it. Or in the case of the women with larger stretches, they didn't make the holes too large, and would use plugs that could pass for regular diamond earrings at work. And some just wear their hair down.

EDIT - PS - I never understood the argument against tats based on ending up aged with tats. Who the fvk cares? We look terrible when we age anyways. I dont think anyone gives a damn about what folks think about tats on old folks. Why care? I mean, just because I look worse in certain kinds of clothing when Im older doesnt mean I shouldnt wear it in my youth. And in reality, from what Ive seen tattoos covered up skin imperfections on the older (older than 50) people Ive seen them on. Wrinkles, sag, and spider veins are less apparent where they had tattoos.
 
Last edited:

Maximus Rex

Banned
Joined
Apr 8, 2005
Messages
2,265
Reaction score
446
Location
Villa Regis
Jaylan said:
That said, tats and hair aren't too indicative of a persons character or personality.
Yes they are. You can tell by where a person places their whether or no they give a eff about life or if they're just "living in moment." A person (especially a chick) that would get a tattoo on her hands, neck, or feet is very impulsive and isn't very smart. Also, there's a school of thought that says a chick with a a lot of tats are sluttier and easier.

The fact remains that about fifteen to twenty years ago, only certain kinds of people got tattoos, military personnel, (e.g. sailors) bikers, musicians, Aryans, Mexican and black gang members, and people on the edge. Black people didn't start getting them until 2Pac started getting them.

Also note that a female would never get something on her body that she would deemed "unattractive." F*ck all of that deep meaning ****. Females aren't that deep as individuals, know you're telling that the tramp stamp that's right above the crack of your a$$ or tat of your second baby's daddy name on your right tittie has some profound meaning in your life? GTFOH. B*tch, you got that **** because you thought it was cute and it make you sexy


Jaylan said:
EDIT - PS - I never understood the argument against tats based on ending up aged with tats. Who the fvk cares? We look terrible when we age anyways. I dont think anyone gives a damn about what folks think about tats on old folks. Why care? I mean, just because I look worse in certain kinds of clothing when Im older doesnt mean I shouldnt wear it in my youth. And in reality, from what Ive seen tattoos covered up skin imperfections on the older (older than 50) people Ive seen them on. Wrinkles, sag, and spider veins are less apparent where they had tattoos.
But why do things that would potentially make it worse.
 

Jaylan

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 8, 2011
Messages
3,119
Reaction score
133
Maximus Rex said:
Yes they are. You can tell by where a person places their whether or no they give a eff about life or if they're just "living in moment." A person (especially a chick) that would get a tattoo on her hands, neck, or feet is very impulsive and isn't very smart. Also, there's a school of thought that says a chick with a a lot of tats are sluttier and easier.
Still, tattoos arent completely indicative of personality and character. The vast majority of people with tattoos can cover up their body art with every day clothing and especially business attire. Youre ignorantly trying to paint a whole group of people with a wide brush when you talk of the idiots who get neck or hand tattoos. Most dont get tattoos like that. I dont run around telling people that playing rock guitar can explain someones character or personality because some guitarists use drugs and sleep around.

And who cares about feet tattoos? Many women have those, and guess what? All people wear shoes most of the time. So unless the girl wears sandals or is on the beach, strangers wont know she has a foot tattoo.
The fact remains that about fifteen to twenty years ago, only certain kinds of people got tattoos, military personnel, (e.g. sailors) bikers, musicians, Aryans, Mexican and black gang members, and people on the edge. Black people didn't start getting them until 2Pac started getting them.
Who cares that some black kids were influenced by rappers? Hell, Im a black rocker and 2pac didnt influence me. Everyone is influenced by something different, and music matters a lot to young people. So does family, friends, etc. You gonna bash people who get memorial tattoos or tributes to their children?

Also note that a female would never get something on her body that she would deemed "unattractive." F*ck all of that deep meaning ****. Females aren't that deep as individuals, know you're telling that the tramp stamp that's right above the crack of your a$$ or tat of your second baby's daddy name on your right tittie has some profound meaning in your life? GTFOH. B*tch, you got that **** because you thought it was cute and it make you sexy [/B]
You think a woman is thinking about attractive when she gets the ink feet prints of her child tattooed on her? Or how about that memorial tattoo of a parent whos passed on? Dont be ignorant and assume you now why everyone gets tattoos. People have different reasons, and not everyone does it for vanity.

Most women I know dont dare get tramp stamps. They are played out, and most tribute tattoos end up on the arms or upper back. Especially if its for a parent, because it symbolizes their parents watching their back. Maybe you should actually meet and talk to more people with tattoos, because you know what they say when you assume dont you?
But why do things that would potentially make it worse.

Potentially? Why do you care what it potentially does. Ive seen tattoos make some peoples skin look better. At the end of the day why do guys like you care so much about what strangers do? Why do guys like you get bent out of shape when you cant control people and they dont fall in line with what you think is right. Tattoos are a personal choice and what someone else does to their body doesnt affect me or you.

Who really cares what other people do with their bodies? I dont. Youre just making yourself sound like a typical, boring, conservative ole fuddy duddy with the lame judgmental attitude. And btw, overuse of bold doesnt help you get your point across any better.
 

Stagger Lee

Master Don Juan
Joined
Sep 7, 2009
Messages
2,159
Reaction score
138
I don't like tats on women. It's a big turn off for me. It's like the difference between something being sexy or something being trashy. A woman with no tats in a skirt and short top showing off her midriff, lower back and legs is sexy vs. the same with tats is trashy.

When I was younger and about 15 years ago, females rarely got tats. It was considered kind of trashy and low class. About 10 or so years ago lots of females started getting tats. So to a large degree it is a fad and a bad one at that IMO. Also it's example of how women nowadays do whatever they want, get fat, tats, act b!tchy, etc without any regard to what effect that would have on their universal appeal. "I'm fat, tattooed, do whatever I want and I'm still so sexy!" Um no you're not.
 

( . )( . )

Banned
Joined
Dec 31, 2002
Messages
4,873
Reaction score
177
Location
Cobra Kai dojo
Tatts are a pretty good slut tell, a beacon for self aware men if you will that flashes "this chick is not a viable option to raise your offspring"

Tatts on chicks serve 2 purposes. Shows she's doing her bit to smash the yucky patriarchy and showing to the world she's just as capable as a man and brimming with grrrrrl power. She can swear like a sailor, drink like a sailor and now she adorns her body like a sailor, all under the guise of "art".

All the while reinforced at how great she looks by low T level manginas and homo's who can't appreciate a woman's body for the work of art it naturally already is. Hence why closeted dudes like gaylan here and other meek leftoid type men are unquestionably all for them. A little experiment for you fellas with a heightened sense of social/self awareness, you'll notice men who parrot bullsh!t like "I love a chick with ink" seem to always come from dudes who don't bang many women or any at all, test it for yourself.
 

Jaylan

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 8, 2011
Messages
3,119
Reaction score
133
^Wishful thinking from typical manospambot.

In actuality, the dudes I know who love inked chicks the most, are guys who are very tatted up themselves. And those same guys do VERY well with women. Especially if they are musicians. Women lose their panties quick for tatted up musicians. And lord knows you wouldnt flap your gums to these guys in public. You'd be too puzzy to run your mouth to these supposed low T level manginas who slay more tail then you do.

Haters gonna hate.

Manospambots gonna spam.
 

LiveFreeX

Banned
Joined
Mar 10, 2010
Messages
2,536
Reaction score
508
Location
The Wacky Races
Typically for dumb chicks and as they get older they wear clothing and fingerless gloves as 'fashion' to try and cover them up. Tattoos look like sh1t on women period.

Tattoos are best for highly sarcastic, slutty, burping, farting, swearing, sports loving, tomboys, whom no one should marry.
 

( . )( . )

Banned
Joined
Dec 31, 2002
Messages
4,873
Reaction score
177
Location
Cobra Kai dojo
Jaylan said:
In actuality, the dudes I know who love inked chicks the most, are guys who are very tatted up themselves. And those same guys do VERY well with women. Especially if they are musicians. Women lose their panties quick for tatted up musicians. And lord knows you wouldnt flap your gums to these guys in public. You'd be too puzzy to run your mouth to these supposed low T level manginas who slay more tail then you do.
http://imageshack.us/a/img59/3315/intredasting.jpg

We're not actually talking about tatted up musicians who give you midnight sphincter tingles gaylan, but do go on. Your story sounds intriguing :up:
 

Bible_Belt

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 27, 2005
Messages
17,530
Reaction score
6,311
Age
50
Location
midwestern cow field 40
( . )( . ) said:
Tatts are a pretty good slut tell.
Yep. You beat me to that comment. To me a tat is like a sign that says, "I make irrational decisions. Would you like to be one of them?"

And I don't even mean that in a bad way. I like being an irrational decision.
 

( . )( . )

Banned
Joined
Dec 31, 2002
Messages
4,873
Reaction score
177
Location
Cobra Kai dojo
Bible_Belt said:
Yep. You beat me to that comment. To me a tat is like a sign that says, "I make irrational decisions. Would you like to be one of them?"

And I don't even mean that in a bad way. I like being an irrational decision.
I hear you, and I'm all for P&D'ing an inked up snowflake as much as the next guy but like I say on the flipside it says:

"I'm an impulsive retard, my strong herd mentality and unoriginality ensures I lack the breadth of mind needed to be used for more than a wet slit, I'll probably end up scalding your newborn with hot water in a mad panic to get to my iphone if one of my gf's calls. Thats if your dumb enough to invest in a future with me....Do you like my new unicorn? it's got a celtic theme as a background"
 

Desdinova

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 15, 2004
Messages
11,668
Reaction score
4,841
She can swear like a sailor, drink like a sailor and now she adorns her body like a sailor, all under the guise of "art".

All the while reinforced at how great she looks by low T level manginas and homo's who can't appreciate a woman's body for the work of art it naturally already is.
I could not have said this better myself.

Women who LOVE getting tattoos are IMO wreckless spenders of money. They buy tattoos like they buy new pairs of shoes - on an impulse. If you want your paycheck raped by your wife, marry a woman who's covered in ink.
 

SamTheHobit

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 10, 2011
Messages
1,514
Reaction score
95
Location
South Africa
Someone already said it in a similar thread. "Stamps of stupidity".
 

SamTheHobit

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 10, 2011
Messages
1,514
Reaction score
95
Location
South Africa
( . )( . ) said:
I hear you, and I'm all for P&D'ing an inked up snowflake as much as the next guy but like I say on the flipside it says:

"I'm an impulsive retard, my strong herd mentality and unoriginality ensures I lack the breadth of mind needed to be used for more than a wet slit, I'll probably end up scalding your newborn with hot water in a mad panic to get to my iphone if one of my gf's calls. Thats if your dumb enough to invest in a future with me....Do you like my new unicorn? it's got a celtic theme as a background"
Very well said.
 

bukowski_merit

Master Don Juan
Joined
May 27, 2007
Messages
1,313
Reaction score
160
Location
Tri-State
Once something becomes trendy and get's marketing behind it - it's hard to judge people based on it. The whole street bike/tattoo trend is in full effect...

I myself have 0 tattoos, but I'd have a really hard time finding a girl who doesn't have at least 1 these days.

I'm not personally bothered by it unless they're covered in them... At that point - I figure she has some kind of complex...

I did however think of a lot of you guys yesterday when I saw this on the magazine rack: http://cdn01.cdn.justjaredjr.com/wp-content/uploads/headlines/2013/07/demi-lovato-cosmo-august-2013-cover.jpg

THIS magazine cover alone with inspire THOUSAND of women to get tattoos.

Marketing at work...
 

Vice

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 23, 2007
Messages
2,004
Reaction score
186
Jaylan said:
People of many ages and backgrounds have been getting tattoos for thousands of years. They aren't going anywhere. And young people will love them for a long time to come. I have a sleeve I'm completing on my right arm. I have a small chest piece as well. They both have meaning to me and aren't meant to be purely decorative. They are tributes to those who have been inspirational in my life.
This is partly true. Tattoos have been around for a while for various purposes such as tribal/military affiliation.

That being said, there is definitely a tattoo fad; a few decades ago normal people did not have tattoos, it was something taboo that less savory people had. It's only recently become socially acceptable to have tattoos.

( . )( . ) said:
Tatts are a pretty good slut tell, a beacon for self aware men if you will that flashes "this chick is not a viable option to raise your offspring"

Tatts on chicks serve 2 purposes. Shows she's doing her bit to smash the yucky patriarchy and showing to the world she's just as capable as a man and brimming with grrrrrl power. She can swear like a sailor, drink like a sailor and now she adorns her body like a sailor, all under the guise of "art".

All the while reinforced at how great she looks by low T level manginas and homo's who can't appreciate a woman's body for the work of art it naturally already is. Hence why closeted dudes like gaylan here and other meek leftoid type men are unquestionably all for them. A little experiment for you fellas with a heightened sense of social/self awareness, you'll notice men who parrot bullsh!t like "I love a chick with ink" seem to always come from dudes who don't bang many women or any at all, test it for yourself.
If I see a tattoo on a girl I can also verify that she is at least 18 years old as well. The rest of your post is kind of abrasive, but mostly true.

I've always been turned off by tattoos. One girl I knew had a f*cking CUPCAKE tattooed on her side.
 

Maximus Rex

Banned
Joined
Apr 8, 2005
Messages
2,265
Reaction score
446
Location
Villa Regis
Jaylan said:
Still, tattoos arent completely indicative of personality and character. The vast majority of people with tattoos can cover up their body art with every day clothing and especially business attire. Youre ignorantly trying to paint a whole group of people with a wide brush when you talk of the idiots who get neck or hand tattoos.
Really, then how do explain this explosion of tattoos. Hell there even fads within the tattoo fad. Remember when chicks were getting tribal bands? Which lead into paw prints on thighs. For a minute the Chinese characters were a popular movement. Then chicks started getting them on their titties. From there b*tches moved on to the "tramp stamp." Now in a vain attempt to stand out, these idiot *****s are getting **** on their hands, necks, and faces.

Jaylan said:
And who cares about feet tattoos? Many women have those, and guess what? All people wear shoes most of the time. So unless the girl wears sandals or is on the beach, strangers wont know she has a foot tattoo.
I do and apparently so do a lot of men on this sight because we prefer to enjoy woman's natural beauty as opposed to some inane nonsense she had plastered on her because she thought it was "cute."

Jaylan said:
Who cares that some black kids were influenced by rappers?
Because for a lot of these fatherless sheep, the influence that's being projected by rappers isn't necessarily a good one.

Jaylan said:
Hell, Im a black rocker and 2pac didnt influence me.
So? What's your point? The reason why tats became en vogue among blacks was because Pac, Lil Wayne, Juvenile, Birdman, and B.G. had them.

Jaylan said:
So does family, friends, etc. You gonna bash people who get memorial tattoos or tributes to their children?
Yeah. because they're caught in a fad. People have been having kids and experiencing relatives dying since the dawn of time, but never did they feel the need to have their children or a deceased loved on name or face permanently etched on to their skin. It seemed it anybody was going to do some **** like this, it would have been the hippies. The fact remains no matter what the tat is, people are getting them because they feel it makes them "different,"; but how are your expressing your individuality be doing the very thing that everybody else is doing?

You think a woman is thinking about attractive when she gets the ink feet prints of her child tattooed on her? Or how about that memorial tattoo of a parent whos passed on? Dont be ignorant and assume you now why everyone gets tattoos. People have different reasons, and not everyone does it for vanity.

Dude, GTFOH with that P.C. Bullsh*t. Of course she's thinking about whether it will be attractive on her because a woman wouldn't BUY CLOTHES THAT MAKE HER LOOK F*CKED, LET ALONE GET A TATTOO THAT WOULD MAKE HER LOOK BAD. Also women are attention wh*res, they that **** will get them attention.

Jaylan said:
Potentially? Why do you care what it potentially does. Ive seen tattoos make some peoples skin look better. At the end of the day why do guys like you care so much about what strangers do? Why do guys like you get bent out of shape when you cant control people and they dont fall in line with what you think is right. Tattoos are a personal choice and what someone else does to their body doesnt affect me or you.
Because I want to be with a chick that confident enough in her beauty to know that only thing she needs to is get a gym membership, do some work on the bench, arm curls, leg press, and crunches for that mean ab development.

Jaylan said:
Youre just making yourself sound like a typical, boring, conservative ole fuddy duddy with the lame judgmental attitude.
Dude, Rex is far from boring and he don't have to externalize my uniqueness to the world doing what everybody under the age of 40 is doing. You speak of judgments, but we as a species are designed by nature to make judgments, judgment calls keep us safe and free from harm.

Jaylan said:
And btw, overuse of bold doesnt help you get your point across any better.
You're a dumb f*ck dude. What makes you think I'm using the for any other reason other than fact, I like the way it makes the font look. The regular font looks rather plain, and you're sitting up here talking about folks making judgments.

Vice said:
If I see a tattoo on a girl I can also verify that she is at least 18 years old as well.
Don't be too sure of that dude, I've seen a number of youngsters that were obviously under the age of 18 inked up. You might want to consult your local tattooist to see if paternal notification or permission is needed before a minor gets a tat.
 

Wolfgang D

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Apr 11, 2011
Messages
240
Reaction score
23
( . )( . ) said:
Tatts are a pretty good slut tell, a beacon for self aware men if you will that flashes "this chick is not a viable option to raise your offspring"
True. What really turns me on is when a woman says "I would never get a tattoo." That's a woman who can think for herself. Who doesn't want to be branded like a cow to show that she is part of the herd.

We could make a whole thread, no a whole forum, about Stupid Tattoo Pics. Like pictures of Chinese characters on a woman's neck - which she can't even draw, and which she has forgotten which is which. "One of them stands for love, one is harmony, one is peace, but I don't remember." (True story.)


"tattoos have been around for thousands of years" - That was before people had clothes worth a damn. They dressed in rags and had few or no decorations anywhere in their lives. But even then few would get tattoos. In few cultures and not permanently through a culture. In the West you would see it mainly on sailors, who lived on ships where everyone had to dress the same every day, so they wanted something to break the uniformity. And this started quite recently, as history goes.

Ever heard of tattoos in Medieval Europe, or the Renaissance or the Enlightenment, the eras that built everything and all the sciences on which we stand today? Didn't think so. Or how about when the East Asians built their civilizations, did the women burn their skin with pictures of parasols and pink horsies?

Tattoos in the past were mostly a way for warriors to show they belonged together. That is the only kind of tattoo I can accept, there is some meaning to that. Helps them identify with each other and therefore fight better. Same as a uniform or a crewcut. And even then it should be earned. After you have passed the test and proven yourself. Like a medal. But today people want the shiny medal without doing anything for it, which makes it meaningless.

Now think about this, boys and girls. Smooth, unblemished skin has always been highly desirable, because it is a great sign of health and youth. Women have always valued it highly, and in the past - and in nearly all cultures today - they would never ruin that skin voluntarily.

Tattoos on men are a sign that the man is so tough he doesn't care about the pain of hurting his skin. Same function as scars, and same thing when prison inmates push needles and safety-pins under their skin. Just to show they can take it. That's the origin of tattoos today. Originating in prison, mostly.

Why would a woman want to signal that? It's insane. It doesn't necessarily show that that particular woman is nuts, but it shows a culture gone awry. We feel it. We know there is something wrong today, but most people can't put their finger on it. So you have some kids cutting their skin, burning their skin, sniffing glue, listening to music that talks about suicide, or burying themselves in countless hours of computer games - signs as good as any that things are not right. Sometimes we are presented with a false choice, it's either this or it's a society based on dogmatic religion, and we don't want that. But we feel life today isn't healthy all the same.

I wouldn't be surprised if some sort of fundamentalism arose in the West eventually. Not like in the Muslim world, fundamentalist Islam, that's for them. Not fundamentalism like communist communes, that's in the past. but something else. Maybe a "clean living" movement. Something about being back to nature, hunting and fishing, turning off the TV permanently, actually spending time outdoors. And get rid of all the fads. Including the one about tattoos to show that you are part of the masses.
 
Top