"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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When to STOP being a DJ/PUA

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Yea, i was just wondering when you lot (Assuming your not 'settled down' already) would want to stop dating, sleeping around, whatever and get a house with a girl, have kids etc.

Personally, I wouldn't wanna do that anytime before i was 35, but i heard that "all the good girls get taken before 25" in another thread, so I'd have to either pull a much younger woman or get very lucky.

I personally know one guy who must be like 50+ and still plays the field. Thing is, when hes a lot older hes gonna be pretty much alone...so I would of thought this is a bad way to live.

What about you lot?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Personally, I wouldn't wanna do that anytime before i was 35, but i heard that "all the good girls get taken before 25" in another thread, so I'd have to either pull a much younger woman or get very lucky.
So you are gonna change your life because "someone in the other thread said" bla bla...

Come on! Have a mind of your own. You are 19 and you still have plenty of time to think about it and play in the field.

Personally I think that I'm not gonna get settled down untill I reach my personal goals for life including big-ass house at mediterranean sea, traveling a lot, having a career etc. etc. not a single woman will stop me from having that! So maybe it's when I'm 30 or 40 or even 50 when I get settled down, but I'll make sure I'll live my dream by that time and I have the most perfect wife for me then... But until then, it's all fun chacing my dream enjoying multiple women as much as I like!

Keep it up!
 

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Hot Ice said:
So you are gonna change your life because "someone in the other thread said" bla bla...

Come on! Have a mind of your own. You are 19 and you still have plenty of time to think about it and play in the field.

Personally I think that I'm not gonna get settled down untill I reach my personal goals for life including big-ass house at mediterranean sea, traveling a lot, having a career etc. etc. not a single woman will stop me from having that! So maybe it's when I'm 30 or 40 or even 50 when I get settled down, but I'll make sure I'll live my dream by that time and I have the most perfect wife for me then... But until then, it's all fun chacing my dream enjoying multiple women as much as I like!

Keep it up!
yea mate i do have a mind of my own, i always had 35-40 in mind...but it just kinda made me think that maybe that would be difficult, if its true that all the good women are taken by 25
 

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no one said you have to sleep with loads of woman to be a so called DJ. do what you want to do. there are plenty of people who have had help from various sites because they want to find a relatioship and need the means a and know how to maintain one, know how to act when things go bad etc. the majority of people on the other hand want to be playboys but may eventually settle down, it will come with time and age when you finally understand EXACTLY what it is you want out of life.
 

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yea mate i do have a mind of my own, i always had 35-40 in mind...but it just kinda made me think that maybe that would be difficult, if its true that all the good women are taken by 25
Now **** that!

There are always some Great women available. The key is just to find them.
And who the **** cares if finding the diamond among the mud is difficult. It's never easy!

I'd rather have my dreams and goals high and never satisfy for less that is my dream than just give it all up at the age of 25 like my life is over once I hit 30. That goes for women too.
At least there is challenge and if you somehow never be able to get what you really want you'll know that you never satisfied for less like 99% of suckers do and you lived by high standards.


Disclaimer: I'm not saying here that you should wait for "the one". That's the most stupid passive lifestyle you can have. Bang the chicks as much as you can (remember protection) and remember to have fun.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Hot Ice said:
Disclaimer: I'm not saying here that you should wait for "the one". That's the most stupid passive lifestyle you can have. Bang the chicks as much as you can (remember protection) and remember to have fun.
yea. To be honest mate, I'd have a different woman every night until I die if possible...I'm the kinda guy who would get by w/o living with sum woman.

Thing is I want to have a kid or kids, preferably a boy...you know, carrying on the family name and all that (i have no brothers)....this is the main reason I would want to get "settled down"......if you see what I mean
 

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Just don't plan around it!

There is also another thread that says, you don't need somebody to be happy in life.

I plan on travelling the world, knocking up hundreds of women, and having illegitimate children ruling the world without knowing who their true father is. I want the single mothers to cry and complain that they cannot remember me. I want to hear the lies they told to my kids about how evil their father is while I am in heaven. If enough people remember me for something I either was, or I wasn't I'd be happy with my life.

Imagine committing a crime and being locked away in prison for life times two, than finally getting out. People have been wrongly imprisoned, do you think they'd NEVER find somebody?

I'd be happy with just friends... or keeping a hundred cats in my flat;)
 

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You'll figure it out what you REALLY want in life.

Just keep thinking about it and it becomes clear in your mind.
Then just live your life like you want it and let no-one interrupt your own personal happiness.

It might take few years from now for you to get the idea of what you want, but believe me, it's worth all the thinking.
 

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DJ or PUA?

Being a dj, having the dj mentality can last you all your life. A dj is knoweledge and power motivated. DJ is synonomus with mack. but dj, player, and pimp are not synonomous. It could extend into the bussiness world, or in anything you do. A dj wants to be the best at everything he does. (What alot of guys want to be good at is getting girls) This is ok, because a dj knows that getting p***y is just another thing to do on sparetime. Sex symbols like Sean Connery, Jack Nicholson, George Clooney, Denzel Washington, and Bob Barker, theyre all macks. Look how old they are. Upgrading, after player stage, is about quality, not quantity. They know that 2 good women are better than 10 slvts.

Macks are motivated by knowelege and power. Pimps are motivated by game (special pimps' type of game) and ofcourse money. PUAs or players, are motivated by pv$$y. More and more and more of it. mid to late twenties its ok to go through player stage. You have your career on track, youre on top of your game = more options, you want to use those options. with all this play, a dj knows that at the end of the day bills have to be paid. A PUA gets too motivated by it and hes too comfortable in his player stage (of more of it, at all costs)

After age 35 - 40, when his career has taken a back seat for 15 years hes forced to do little odd jobs to stay on his feet. He no longer has his options, theyve all moved on, so he is desperate for some, and he has that mindset. These guys are the equivalents of crazy old bag ladies. Guys like this i have dealt with, they are old school type players, they still wear sweat suits from the 80s and they like to tell me about how the 70s and 80s wear the days. These guys see an attractive women and b/c of their desperation and brain stuck back in the 80s, they come off to girls as that weird old guy who wants a chance.

Its sad. Dont get too complacent in player stage. go through player stage as fast and early as possible. YOu dont want to have the mindset of a pua for too long. late 20s early thirties, pua mindset should evolve, to where you have other interests, (sex being 1 of them) and to where you have 1 quality woman, whatever quality woman means to you.
 

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It actually gets easier to get poon the older you get. Women will date much older men more often than much younger men, in part because many women respond to status very well. Additionally, there is actually more women than men until you reach a certain age which I believe is around 30? .. depends on location also.

What results in being alone is placing all your eggs in one basket and allowing yourself to sever all business or social contacts to worry over a woman. The best part of a relationship is the first few months, it is usually all downhill from there. You start getting loaded down with burdens unless you find a really great woman. I say keep an eye out for someone with similar goals, but never settle for less. It gets easier to get laid as you get older, especially if you're developing skills with women.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Remember when i named all those sex symbols, there all 40+. Dj and pua is not the same thing. The sex symbols know that sex is so readily available to them that a woman's vagina has no $ value. PUAs think about where their next nut is gonna come from, just like a starving artist thinks about where is next rent money is gonna come from. A pua learns how to get more sex, so he gets more, then he wants more, and then he gets more. A pua mindset is never satisfied, he always wants more. The more time passes by, and the more he gets, the more he wants. (so long as he still has pua mindset)

Look at this: cash <----> azz continium. What every man wants. (if you dont want it, its because its so hard to get, for you, that it never crossed your mind) I dont care what you name, when you go for one, you sacrifice the other to some extent. Pimps cannot sex their *****s, b/c their women are there to make him $ not the other thing. (you cannot be a pushound and a pimp, its like a drug dealer who smokes crack)

For a dj, his little player stage (about 5 - 6 years) satisfied him, so now he can develope other interests and pay his bills. A pua gets further to the azz side everyday that passes. Thats what these sex symbols have in their lives. other sub - interests outside their work, sex being one of them. A forty year old man is on top of his game, and he should know how to filter out women that are gonna have him paying child support later, and he can get to the classy women. So yes, if you stay a pua, you can wind up a retro old school player. (player meaning motivated by azz) Bob Barker (host of price is right) is a sex symbol 85+ years old. Puas dont know when to stop wanting it, so their career suffers, now youre a bum, whos desperate and thinks woman cant resist him, but women dont want to talk to a bum. U need to upgrade to where pus is secondary to you.
 

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L777 said:
yea mate i do have a mind of my own, i always had 35-40 in mind...but it just kinda made me think that maybe that would be difficult, if its true that all the good women are taken by 25
You should never set a time limit or age range for when you think you should have something done by. It's foolish to do that to yourself. It's far better to take on the attitude that you will settle down when you find someone you really want to spend your life with and are able to get along well with for the long term. That might happen when you're 25 or it might not happen until your 45. You just have to live each day given to you and see what happens.
 

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You won't give shelter to all the homeless people you see just because you are living each day... Yeah, if the opportunity slips itself to you, go ahead, give it a go. But it's a much safer bet to go get the young uns.
 

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Hahaha! Bob Barker isn't a PUA/DJ, he's just a game show host with CEO's and bosses hiring those hotties to display prizes. He receives kisses/hugs, and that's only because he's the figure of money. If he was out in real life instead of the game business, he would be like any other old guy.
 

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I read most but not every post in this thread and I can not believe no one has said this already.

It is almost impossible to decide when you are going to get married and settled down. Ask anybody who has been married for more than 20 years how they realized they were the one. Sure they will glamourize it, but still it just happens.

You might meet her when you are getting your taxes done, or in the grocery store, or in the mall. It will probably start off just like any other DJ pick up you have tried in the past. Chances are you will give your best game, and she will test you and tease you and overall just put up a challenge, yet it will be challenge that compels you to try. You will most likely in the process of trying to beat the challenge, end up thinking she is cute and funny, and has a good personality. Chances are you will have start a STR, just because you think it will be fun,and the relationship will naturally develop into a LTR becuase there is no reason to break up cause your such a good match. Then the LTR develops in more, and then into love and BAM your married.

That is how it goes almost every time. Now granted you could just stop them before they get into the STR or LTR stage, but if she really is the one for you, chances are you would not want to sabatoge that.

To the guy who said no women would be able to take his dreams of the medditerranean sea and that lifestyle. I for one dont want ot settle down until at least 25, but why wouldn't you want to experience those dreams with a wife. I mean keep DJ, but in the process you could find someone who has the same or similar dreams than you and it would seem to me that your dreams would be 100 times better with someone you really love.

To me that would be like going to a Theme Park alone. Sure it would be fun, but it would be a heck of a lot better to experience and remember it with someone else. I think DJ is absolutely great and fun and rewarding, but I know at some point I am gonna want to settle down. Except the problem is you can't flip a switch like that, however I would prefer to wait until at least 25, if not 30, becuase by then most things in your life are starting to slow down a little, you have a career started, and your views, morals, ethics, and plans are someone coming together and are locked in.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

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