"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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when to move on

konmai

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alright, so how many tries do the fellas put in before you move on from someone? giving them the benefit of the doubt that they may be shy, busy, etc....
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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No more than twice. If a girl is really in to you, she'll find a way to make it happen.
 

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Two strikes and you're out. Their was a post a while back explaining this, try searching for it, good stuff in that thread.
 

Down Low

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Here's what burnt spy Michael Westen would say:

Most battles in war are won by having better intelligence than the other side. The same goes for getting a date with a reluctant woman. You need to do some intelligence gathering. Find out where she lives and where she throws away her trash.

If the trash can is a huge dumpster, no problem. People usually throw away their trash when they go out for the day, or, right after making a pile of smelly food waste at meal time. Do a little more surveillance and find out when she throws it away. You can zero in on her garbage bags by looking at the addresses on mail.

What you're looking for is blood. In particular, the blood on sanitary napkins or tampons. It's not pretty, but you did expect to be handling the source of that material anyway. Don't get squeamish now.

Once you determine when she's on the rag, you have the key intel. All you have to do is come back in about 12 days when she's in heat.

Of course, if you can get in her house, it's a lot easier. Especially if she marks the start of her period with a little P on the calendar.
 

seethehoop

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Down Low said:
Here's what burnt spy Michael Westen would say:

Most battles in war are won by having better intelligence than the other side. The same goes for getting a date with a reluctant woman. You need to do some intelligence gathering. Find out where she lives and where she throws away her trash.

If the trash can is a huge dumpster, no problem. People usually throw away their trash when they go out for the day, or, right after making a pile of smelly food waste at meal time. Do a little more surveillance and find out when she throws it away. You can zero in on her garbage bags by looking at the addresses on mail.

What you're looking for is blood. In particular, the blood on sanitary napkins or tampons. It's not pretty, but you did expect to be handling the source of that material anyway. Don't get squeamish now.

Once you determine when she's on the rag, you have the key intel. All you have to do is come back in about 12 days when she's in heat.

Of course, if you can get in her house, it's a lot easier. Especially if she marks the start of her period with a little P on the calendar.
That's called stalking and it's pretty much frowned upon.

If she flakes once but gives a reason give her another chance, if she offers an alternate date that's a good sign. Flakes twice she's done. Fool me once.....
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Down Low

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seethehoop said:
That's called stalking and it's pretty much frowned upon.
If you look in the mirror and realize that you don't have what it takes to be a spy, don't try. Someone will just get hurt. Probably you.

You're just going to have to gather intel in a more traditional way. Learn to recognize when women are in heat. And strike when the iron is hot.
 

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Down Low said:
Here's what burnt spy Michael Westen would say:

Most battles in war are won by having better intelligence than the other side. The same goes for getting a date with a reluctant woman. You need to do some intelligence gathering. Find out where she lives and where she throws away her trash.

If the trash can is a huge dumpster, no problem. People usually throw away their trash when they go out for the day, or, right after making a pile of smelly food waste at meal time. Do a little more surveillance and find out when she throws it away. You can zero in on her garbage bags by looking at the addresses on mail.

What you're looking for is blood. In particular, the blood on sanitary napkins or tampons. It's not pretty, but you did expect to be handling the source of that material anyway. Don't get squeamish now.

Once you determine when she's on the rag, you have the key intel. All you have to do is come back in about 12 days when she's in heat.

Of course, if you can get in her house, it's a lot easier. Especially if she marks the start of her period with a little P on the calendar.
Maybe the creepiest thing I ever RED. Get it?
 
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