"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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When to Dump Her

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You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em,
Know when to walk away and know when to run.
You never count your money when you're sittin' at the table.
There'll be time enough for countin' when the dealin's done.
The Gambler-Kenny Rogers

There's a lot of great advice on this website about how to get women but knowing when to leave them is without a doubt more important. When she cheats, runs back to her ex, or says she wants to focus on her "career," those are all obvious. But what about the things that are less so? Excessive high maintenance, low interest level, etc.

Any and all advice on when to cut and run is appreciated.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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when the time is right for you.
 

Samwild

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betheman said:
when the time is right for you.
To piggy back, when the red flags are too hard to ignore and it's no longer fun to be in their presence.
 

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Thank you Samwild I guess that's what I was asking for was red flags. However, there's already a million other threads on them so I'm not going to bother asking for them.
 

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This is by far the most important part of dating. My big one is inconsistant behavior. Once you smell a rat you need to bounce and not stick around for the invevitable pounce.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Most obvious signs include behavioural changes, less affection towards you and hanging out with new people without including you. Note that she may continue to keep fvcking you inspite of her lowering interest. Theres no real correlation there.

At the end of the day, you need to do it when your gut tells you to. Most of us tend to be in denial when we see obvious red flags, but your gut knows when the time is right.
 

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A very common sign: to talk on the phone you need to do the calling rather than her doing the calling, and when you do talk she is hurrying to end the conversation and hang up.
 

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Waive said:
runs back to her ex
Im curious as what one would define as running back to her ex. What if she has a drink with her ex, and says that they are merely friends/they will never get back together?
 

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roflzaur said:
Im curious as what one would define as running back to her ex. What if she has a drink with her ex, and says that they are merely friends/they will never get back together?
Haha, if she's associating with her exes and especially having drinks with them it means she doesn't like you.
 

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If you ever sense the warning signs that a girl is losing interest and soon to dump you, you must pre-emptively dump her before she has a chance to dump you. It’s risky but it’s a win-win: you either cut your losses or you regain hand and are rewarded with hot sex.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Renegade357 said:
Haha, if she's associating with her exes and especially having drinks with them it means she doesn't like you.
Not true. You actually want to get her talking about her ex (who she loved, especially her first love) IN PERSON, sometimes. That makes her associate you with the feelings she had for him.

Deep Dish said:
If you ever sense the warning signs that a girl is losing interest and soon to dump you, you must pre-emptively dump her before she has a chance to dump you.
This is true. It's 10 times easier to walk away knowing that she would go out with you again if you asked her than it is to think she wouldn't reply if you tried.
 

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roflzaur. Well it depends on who dumped who. If she dumped him than you've got a guy with some burning resentment towards you who'll be doing his best to ****block you. If he dumped her than she's still got some lingering feelings for him and he can rip her out of your arms at any time.

Oh wait... Those both suck.

Tell her you don't want or need a woman who can't let go of the past. It's not fair to her and it sure as hell ain't fair to you. Now there might be a few exceptions like they had a kid together but thats a whole other can of condensed fecal matter.
 
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