"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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when to call a girl after f-close

TheTraveller

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The girl I'm currently dating seems very interested. We've been on 3 great dates, f-closed on date 3 and looking to get to know this girl more and have fun.

She was over last night into this morning, all on date 3. Should I call her tonight just to check in with the usual post-first-time-f-close-with-new girl call (and is this necessary if they spent the next morning until about noon with me?) ? Should I hold off on calling to see if she initiates? Should I suggest to her when calling her tonight that *she should call me* in a few days and suggest a 4th date spot? She has never initiated a call to me, but when I told her to let me know about something during our conversation on the phone last week, she emailed me the next day while at work with details. She's clearly thinking of me when we're not together which is great.

Any advice appreciated.

cheers,
-t
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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You seem to be in a good place with her. I never had a problem with calling the next day. Two days would work too. I mean, when you think about it, we're just talking about one call. You don't want to be available every day, of course, but I don't think anything bad can happen by calling the day after.
 

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I personally will never initiate contact with a chick after I f-close her. I'll leave that to her.

In my mind, if a woman has gone far enough to f*ck you, she will initiate conversation if she is indeed truly interested.
 

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Iceberg said:
You seem to be in a good place with her. I never had a problem with calling the next day. Two days would work too. I mean, when you think about it, we're just talking about one call. You don't want to be available every day, of course, but I don't think anything bad can happen by calling the day after.
True, and this was the second time we spent the night together - first time was no sex, but everything else. The last time, sex was there. She left by around 12 today and I thought that by not calling her tonight and waiting until tomorrow (Mon.) night she'd feel used or whatever other stuff girls might feel in this situation. Am I right or wrong in saying this?
 

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WC2 said:
I personally will never initiate contact with a chick after I f-close her. I'll leave that to her.

In my mind, if a woman has gone far enough to f*ck you, she will initiate conversation if she is indeed truly interested.
Sense of entitlement much?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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TheTraveller

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WC2 said:
I personally will never initiate contact with a chick after I f-close her. I'll leave that to her.

In my mind, if a woman has gone far enough to f*ck you, she will initiate conversation if she is indeed truly interested.
The first time we stayed over, with doing everything other than sex, I called her the following evening (the evening of the morning she left) and set up date 3 on the phone then.

And what if she doesn't call today or tomorrow because she's waiting for *my* call? I don't want to mess this up. Do I have to stick by this rule even though I followed it the first time on date 2 (and it appeared to work, we had a 25 minute phone call, I know too long but it flew by).
 

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TheTraveller said:
True, and this was the second time we spent the night together - first time was no sex, but everything else. The last time, sex was there. She left by around 12 today and I thought that by not calling her tonight and waiting until tomorrow (Mon.) night she'd feel used or whatever other stuff girls might feel in this situation. Am I right or wrong in saying this?
If she left at noon today, I think you'll be fine calling her tomorrow. Calling her tonight is fine if you have your heart set on it...but I'd just call tomorrow. I mean, you just spent a whole night and morning with her. Over the past 6-8 hours that you've been apart, there probably haven't be a whole lot of conversation-worthy events in your life to chat on the phone about.
 
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