Dhoulmagus
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If she hasn't asked for exclusivity yet than she probably has lol.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
When text frequency dies down
- Thread starter Jaylan
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
This. People tend to cling to what's familiar and comfortable and the idea that this can change or end at any moment scare the sh!t out of them and their mind make all kind of stupid rationalizations just to not hurt that fragile ego.Espi said:
That's why abundance mindset and having other options is the gist of this called game.
Example: Few days ago a girl rejected my suggestion for a date. I didn't give two fvcks about that rejection because i didn't expect any reaction from her, either positive or negative. So I didn't react at all and I never gave it any thought afterwards. I just sent another text to a different girl and the night was great.
don't expect anything to last forever. Don't expect a particular reaction when you ask her out or when you do anything and you will never post things like this.
You can't control people but you can control yourself. and by mastering oneself women will have no power over you.
Sucks but you gotta go nc and let her chase, she probably won't but at this point it is the only chance you have.
I find texting girls to be really bad yet I still do it. It works against you in two ways... one you become emotionally invested even if you don't realize it, two, she starts to see you as too available and more or a friend.
I know this yet I still happily text hb's. Why?
I find texting girls to be really bad yet I still do it. It works against you in two ways... one you become emotionally invested even if you don't realize it, two, she starts to see you as too available and more or a friend.
I know this yet I still happily text hb's. Why?
Thanks for the replies folks.
I do need to address this one post here...as its pretty incorrect.
So a guy that wants respect and honesty from a woman he dates is a needy blue pill beta? So I guess zekko, Danger, Desdinova, Atom Smasher, SocialLeper, PairPlusRoyalFlush, and a whole slew of other veterans here are needy blue pill betas then huh? Because every single one of those guys Ive seen talk about a man expecting respect and honesty from the women he dates.
The whole "who cares" mindset is for dudes who dont give a damn about dating and smashing low quality skanks. And I never said I wanted this girl to call me. I merely inquired about texting habits.
I do need to address this one post here...as its pretty incorrect.
???mikey2012 said:
So a guy that wants respect and honesty from a woman he dates is a needy blue pill beta? So I guess zekko, Danger, Desdinova, Atom Smasher, SocialLeper, PairPlusRoyalFlush, and a whole slew of other veterans here are needy blue pill betas then huh? Because every single one of those guys Ive seen talk about a man expecting respect and honesty from the women he dates.
The whole "who cares" mindset is for dudes who dont give a damn about dating and smashing low quality skanks. And I never said I wanted this girl to call me. I merely inquired about texting habits.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Yes... I'm a man who cares about respect and honesty and holds people to their word...male or female...friend or dating. If I'm dating someone and they say they're only gonna see me, lying would show low quality. My point is that one shouldn't say something and then go back on their word.mikey2012 said:
That's what screening is all about...being on the lookout for poor behavior. I may be bring presumptuous about her texting habits...but I may also be right on the money. Nothing wrong with a dude being aware of behavioral changes while screening.
Jaylan you are caring too much about her, more than she cares about you, otherwise you wouldn't be asking this.
She made it clear from the start that she doesn't want serious relationship.
She has the potential to hurt you, if you get emotionally attached.
Looks like she was a plate at first, but then moved to something else in your mind, but not in hers.
I would break it off if I were you. There will be much less potential for heartache. Been there, done that. Not worth it, trust me!
And by the way, you shouldn't be texting her just for the sake of conversations. That's a major attraction killer right there. She is your plate, you should only text her to set up a date, nothing more.
She made it clear from the start that she doesn't want serious relationship.
She has the potential to hurt you, if you get emotionally attached.
Looks like she was a plate at first, but then moved to something else in your mind, but not in hers.
I would break it off if I were you. There will be much less potential for heartache. Been there, done that. Not worth it, trust me!
And by the way, you shouldn't be texting her just for the sake of conversations. That's a major attraction killer right there. She is your plate, you should only text her to set up a date, nothing more.
I'd cut contact and wait to see if she is more responsive. In the meantime, start meeting new girls not lowering your standards for this particular one. Looks like she is starting to fade off.
That's bullsh1t.way2smart said:
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
She's a plate ...right .. Not your gf or wife . You use her for sex. So why you care so much. People go back on their word all the time. People cheat . People lie.. Who cares? You are still stuck in fairyland. Snap out of it. If she calls she calls if she don't then who cares? You must have other stuff to do. Women come and go. You're too highly strung . Do yourself a favor and read the black dragon blog.Jaylan said:
niceguytoalphamale
Master Don Juan
Text messages decreasing among other things signifies a low IL, there's no point in recovering interest level if she isn't your gf, move on and don't make yourself to available to the next woman. Hopefully for you when you move on she comes around good luck 
It's not. It's been proven over and over again that text messaging just for the sake of conversation kills attraction.Octogonal said:
Every single DJ related blog and books teach not to text message unless it has a purpose, like to set up a date for instance and not just to say hello.
lol, you take what internet "gurus" say too seriously. Many of the guys writing blogs online are generally crap with women from what Ive seen.way2smart said:
Its 2015 and people text. No one wants to be on the phone all the time. And I definitely wouldnt pick up if a girl wanted to call me everytime she had something to say or plan with me. Texting works fine, and using text has gotten me laid. And no one is saying texting is going on for the sake of texting. Texting is being done to stay in regular contact with busy people in the 21st century.
What I think many people replying here are missing is this: I see this girl whenever I have free time to do so. And when we do hang out, we have sex and have a fun time. All this thread was about, was to inquire if I should take note in how the texting has died down some. We still take everyday however, and when we're together, nothing is different.
So its either 1 of 2 things: 1. we've gotten to the point where we dont need extra text convos as we already know one another well and dont use our communication for important stuff. Or 2. Shes losing some interest and may be on the outs soon. No way to be certain just yet, as things are the same when we are together. So time will tell.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Oh, I see it's working very well for you. Judging by her waning attraction according to the stuff you posted here.Jaylan said:
I don't take any blogs or gurus seriously, unless I'm sure I have experienced it myself. Texting will get you laid, sure, but in order for her attraction to stay where it is you have to keep being a challenge and texting kills that.
There is some percentage of girls, with whom texting is fine, but it's because their interest level is already through the roof and no matter how hard you try to f***k it up, it will still stay there. But this is clearly not the case in your situation.
I'm not advocating to be on the phone all the time. Texting is fine, you just have to use it wisely. I only use it for setting up dates. I don't text every day just to keep a conversation.
Did you ignore my entire post?way2smart said:
I said I see her whenever I choose to, and have never been turned down for sex. I simply asked if text frequency during a single day, indicates anything. And again, I repeat...she will text me every single say...and whenever I dont initiate she checks in with me when she gets home from work.
So again...I repeat...some of you are missing what Ive been saying. Could attraction be waning? Possibly. But how we interact when I see her has not changed one bit.
Youre saying I need to be a challenge...so I guess when she texts me after work, I should ignore her and not reply for a day or two? That would certainly be an attraction killer when shes told me how she hated poor response patterns from her ex, and how it drove a wedge between them. Tell me how exactly I need to be a challenge with someone I dont see every single day, and when we do text, the convos are not very long and drawn out. (they are simple short convos about what happened during the day)
Of course she says she hated poor response patterns, but also guess what? She loved her ex for it, he was a challenge.Jaylan said:
I would say reply to her texts in an hour or so. Ignoring for a day might be taking it too far. And when you reply, try to be playful and dirty. But try not to initiate yourself, unless it's to set up a date for sex.
Also if she tries to meet up for sex, say you are busy or have other plans on that day. Do that once in a while. Otherwise, she will know she can have sex with you anytime she wants, which is bad for being a challenge.
Dhoulmagus
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Yet, she is not with her ex, she is with op lolway2smart said:
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.