"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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When should you care/not give a sh!t?

spiegel549

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I have been hooking up with a few recent college girls ranging 18-21 years old. I meet them at college parties and local college bars.

I grew up on reading articles and books for years that my brain is programmed with the rule of once you hit her up to get together after getting the number, if she doesn't respond move on.

Well I recently went against that rule a few times and ended up hanging with these girls and getting laid.

It took me contacting them twice after them not responding back the first time for me to end up getting together with them an screwing.

I mean how do you differentiate whether you should try reaching out again or not? My Ego tends to make me think "DONT CONTACT HER AGAIN IF SHE DOESN'T RESPOND" you will look DESPERATE. Yet these are partying college girls.

What do you think?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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If your ego is intact then you won't give a sh&t if they ignore you or not.....do what it takes to get laid but at the same time don't take any crap...a new girl who is a stranger who doesn't answer your call is really no big deal....nothing personal...as long as your ego or emotions are not attached to it or her then i see no big deal...i do it was well and could care less if i get ignored or not...onto the next one...i have a 3 strike rule myself with new girls...
 

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Yup 2 strikes maybe 3 depending on circumstances, but mostly 2.

But then if you run into them again a few months later sometimes you reset the counter to zero.
 

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Women like to play games. Most of them foolishly believe that playing "hard to get" will keep them out of the "pump and dump" category. :crackup: :crackup:

You can't outsmart getting dumped anymore than you can outsmart when the sun goes up. Either people like you or they don't.

I generally follow a 2 strike rule, but if I can tell the girl is playing a game I might try a 3rd time, but not for a week or so. Never more than 3 though.

Regarding when you should "give a sh!t".. the answer is when she says "I love you". Until then you should not give a sh!t. :)
 

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You never know what's going on in a girl's life. Some girls who have boyfriends will delete texts from other guys without saying anything.

I got this number back in October. Took her on an insta-date, she bought me chocolate within half an hour of meeting me, and as we said bye she was already ready for me to kiss her but I didn't. This was during the daytime. We texted a tiny bit after that, then the day we were supposed to meet up all of the sudden she just stopped responding and vanished. From then on, I texted her probably once every couple weeks or so, then once a month. I probably sent her at least 6-7 texts between then and now, NONE of to which she responded.

Then suddenly, as of 5 days ago, she starts becoming really responsive. Don't think she's the AW type. Gonna try to meet up with her soon, I'll let you know if it was anything after all.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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sageproduct said:
You never know what's going on in a girl's life. Some girls who have boyfriends will delete texts from other guys without saying anything.

I got this number back in October. Took her on an insta-date, she bought me chocolate within half an hour of meeting me, and as we said bye she was already ready for me to kiss her but I didn't. This was during the daytime. We texted a tiny bit after that, then the day we were supposed to meet up all of the sudden she just stopped responding and vanished. From then on, I texted her probably once every couple weeks or so, then once a month. I probably sent her at least 6-7 texts between then and now, NONE of to which she responded.

Then suddenly, as of 5 days ago, she starts becoming really responsive. Don't think she's the AW type. Gonna try to meet up with her soon, I'll let you know if it was anything after all.


Strong this.

In my last LTR when I started to pursue her she was seemingly enjoying time spent with me but was reluctant to meet again. And always finding some sort of excuse to end the date early or to not be able to meet up. We actually had about 7 (yes , seven) dates before she kissed me. She'd always pull back when I attempted it. Eventually she tried to initiate it and I pulled back to get back at her & left. (it was a playful thing).
Wild teenage makeout the next day.


Anyway , turns out she had been cheated on by her last boyfriend ,who kissed some chick literally in front of her just the day before we met.


So yeah,just trust your gut. She was being flaky because of what recently happened to her ,but my gut was telling me she's obviously feeling me & it was right.

Plus I really liked her too.

People always say that women play games. That they play hard to get. I doubt they actually think "I'm gonna ignore his calls to see if he's persistent". Any human being in their right mind will know that good opportunities don't wait around for your hesitant ass. Women who do that are probably too insecure (or have other reasons associated with negativity) and they escape the 'pressure' of an encounter by flaking.

There is no 'rule' because no two situations are ever the same. Like I said,trust your gut , it's usually right.


My 2c.
 

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THANK YOU guys, all of your posts were SOLID guidance!
 
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