When should I be patient

[Akz]

I have read The Fifteen Lessons by Pook, but there are two things that I fail to understand:

1. In the first lesson he teaches us to act without hesitation, but lesson 4 is about being patient and wait, so my question is - when should I act and when should I be patient?
2. We all know that men do the first moves and initiate dates, so when should I do so while being patient?

 

[RangerMIke]

Move quickly with initial contact. Be patient during the campaign.

You haveto let her know early on you are interested, but you have to give her time to develop feelings for you. Hell... sometimes you don't have to be patient, but the real quality women are going to test you and make you work for it. Patience will get you there.

 

[MOTU]

In all of Pook's writings he seems to be trying to instill wisdom, not provide technique like many PUA's. So you have to think about what he says and form your own tactics.

The way I interpret the seeming contradiction of #1 and #4 is this: act boldly when it is time to act but be relaxed, confident and patient when it is not.

How do you tell the difference? I think your gut will tell you if your mind is free from fear, anxiety and outcome dependency. And your brain can pitch in here too... Develop a good social understanding so you can be more socially aware.

 

[SeymourCake]

Like the previous user has posted, do not hesitate to approach a woman. Do that immediately.

And then sit back as she developes feelings for you.

 

[stevo]

It's also a bit of action through inaction.

Not every move of attraction involves you actually using words or pursuant action.

You have to decide when its time to use clear sexual actions and when to allow her come to daddy.



Be a relaxed man, pretty much.

Man - Goes for what he wants.

Relaxed - Confident, knows he's the best there is. Doesn't sweat.

When you plant your moves (lesson 1), give them time to grow/germinate (lesson 4)

 

[RangerMIke]

MOTU: In all of Pook's writings he seems to be trying to instill wisdom, not provide technique like many PUA's. So you have to think about what he says and form your own tactics.


I think this is so true and worthy of comment.

The biggest problem I have with the PUA community is that they just jump in and start teaching techniques... all of which works at some level, but unless you really understand why what they teach works you will never be able to become a true DJ. And in the interest of making money the PUA instructors ignore those things like physical appearence, money, and status that is difficult to fix, and can not be taught in a $1,000 weekend work shop. LMS is the single most important factor in attraction... sorry that is the truth. If you are fortunate enough to have this, you will not have any problem hooking up with women.

Pook helps you understand WHY women are attracted to confidence, WHY they are attracted to self-control, and WHY being indifferent drives interest.

Why is it important to have a good sence of humor? Pook explains this, and it is important because it makes a woman more comfortable to be with you. If you understand this, then you know that making a woman comfortable can be ahieved without humor... you just have to know how to do it. Understanding purpose will help you adjust your game to suit you rather than just be a stamped out inauthentic PUA clone.

I think it should be required reading, because unless you understand why this stuff works it's hard to fully embrace these principles.

 

[thelonewolflegend]

how do you know when to make move at the right time though?

 

[Yorkex]

In my opinion it's situational.
Some girls develop feelings fast and if you wait too long ...they move to the next option.

Some girls need time and if you move too fast they put you on the reject list.

In real life approach I go for broke ...wam bam.
But online I take time to know them ..don't really care to be honest.

 

[Serenity]

The only thing I know is to pay attention to the girl, real close attention. Make moves, if she stops you then pull back and try another time. Don't hesitate on doing what you feel like doing to her, but if she doesn't want to you should be patient. She might be interested, but wanting to take it slow to make sure she's not fvcking up. Pushing when told not to is perceived as disrespect for the girl. Patience does not mean sitting around waiting for her to make moves.

There's no perfect time either, so don't hesitate on initiating moves. You make the moves to show your interest, she will check wether you're actually interested or just tricking her into sex. They want commitment, give them the impression you want the same if you actually do.

 

[Serenity]

Somehow double posted, mod can remove this.