"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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when she's in a bad mood, overdoing c&f, ratio of starting convos

sageproduct

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few things i wanted to talk about. in high school, you're gonna see someone every day if you have a class with them. this is almost a guarantee that sometimes they will not be in a good mood. what do you do when you're around a girl who's in a bad mood?

also, i feel like i might be overdoing c&f to the point where i come off as just an immature jerk. how do i tell when its going too far?

and i remember reading somewhere that the girl should be starting 80% of all convos, is this true?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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like what would a c&f response be when she says "why are you so mean to me?" sometimes i just can't come up with anything in the c&f attitude and either saying something c and not f or just wuss like.
 

jeffthechef

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why would she even have to ask that?

c+f doesn't require being mean to her...she shoudl be asking
"why are you so ****y?"

You can pull by simply being happy and in a good mood. If she's in a bad mood, continue to be in a good mood. Only a beta allows others to affect his own disposition. But don't be happy about her problems...tell her you understnad...and that things always get better..that's enough

if she doesnt feel like interacting with you after that and continues to be in a bad mood...talk to other people..unless she has a damn good reason, death of a family member, things that bad...give her a week or two...cause death is part of life... and she has to get over that eventually

stop thinking about things like this..it's unnecessary

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Too much time is spent on technique...You read the dj bible..you read some good articles..once you have the knowledge..go out there and do it..

Thoreau has said it many times...But a good example is buddhism
You can only learn so much from teachers and elders...eventually, to attain nirvana, you must experience for yourself because the path is ineffable...you must experience first hand.

you've gone past experience..you've begun to analyze experience

Get numbers..take them out..this whole thread is unnecessary..why bother with pre-number processes?

You shouldn't have to see them this many times...meet them, get number...or meet them..next time you see them..get number...

Don't think about technique. Cause it's all in the dj bible already
 

Following_of_Me

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It's all very simple, friend.

****y and Funny is an overrated term. Mostly because everyone misunderstands it, confuses it with the neg, etc. It's reached a point. The reality behind it is just to be yourself, but smile more, have a good time with life, dont take things too serious. Trust me, the ****yness comes natural, and the funniness follows as long as youre not a jerk.

And if a chicks in a bad mood, its not a bad idea to just go talk to other people that day.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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^excellent responses by both of you.

Regarding not being in a good mood, just give her some space and talk to someone else. Trust me, nothing will piss a girl off more than when you try hitting on her when shes in a bad mood. When girls are in bad moods, they need alone time and need some space; not some guy trying to get in their pants.
 
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