"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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when she doesnt text you back?

TheGameMaster

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i met a girl on friday night in a club and i got her number, so i sent her a text the next day to see if she wants to go for a coffee or something. She asked me if i had a good night and she said that she'd like to go for coffee sometime. i sent her another text last night suggesting a time when im free and she hasnt text back since. She's a 9.5 by the way, absolutely stunning.
So should i just leave it and call it a lost cause, or should i text again to see if she replies?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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guywhoneedshelp

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TheGameMaster said:
i met a girl on friday night in a club and i got her number, so i sent her a text the next day to see if she wants to go for a coffee or something. She asked me if i had a good night and she said that she'd like to go for coffee sometime. i sent her another text last night suggesting a time when im free and she hasnt text back since. She's a 9.5 by the way, absolutely stunning.
So should i just leave it and call it a lost cause, or should i text again to see if she replies?
Honestly what I do is I just ignore the fact that she didn't get back to me, and text her again in like a week to start a general conversation, depending on how well you know her.

If you've known the girl for like 4 hours or more, you could have a decent chat by now in which you say something like "I'm waiting on line at the supermarket it's taking forever..." in which she would respond by telling you what she's doing. Then you can just go back and forth for a little bit and THEN set something up.

If you don't know her that well then you can still do something like that. Just have a few conversations first in which you don't actually set up a meet. Then finally arrange a meet.
 

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Ignore her, then give it another shot. If nothing happens - this battery is dead.
 

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....

It always has you thinking...did they get it....is their phone dead...wtf isnt she responding....yeah it happens
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Personally, unless she was all over me the entire night and things were golden, I'd avoid texting, primarily for this reason--you never know what's going on. It's easy to ignore people, but it's also a possibility that something came up and then she just forgot. Sometimes real life gets in the way.

As others said, give it a week and try to get in touch with her again. If you try twice and she doesn't reciprocate, then it's a dead fish.
 

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Vlad the Impaler said:
You blew it by texting. Chalk this one up. Call next time.
If you want to be a womans friend you txt, if you want to be her lover you call her. I learned this lesson well. The problem with txting is that it is so easy, convenient and risk free and perfect for afcs. It is the easy way rather than the best way. Just remember that a woman hearing your voice gets her thinking about you in ways that txting can't.

So you met a girl the other day, you txt her days later and she replies, after she replies like 5 mins after you call her. That would be an appropriate way to use txting just to find out if the girl is there and just to start a live phone conversation right after.

the other advice given in this thread is also correct, don't forget THE 2 STRIKES RULE
 

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f283000 said:
If you want to be a womans friend you txt, if you want to be her lover you call her. I learned this lesson well. The problem with txting is that it is so easy, convenient and risk free and perfect for afcs. It is the easy way rather than the best way. Just remember that a woman hearing your voice gets her thinking about you in ways that txting can't.

So you met a girl the other day, you txt her days later and she replies, after she replies like 5 mins after you call her. That would be an appropriate way to use txting just to find out if the girl is there and just to start a live phone conversation right after.

the other advice given in this thread is also correct, don't forget THE 2 STRIKES RULE
x2.....I always find that calling a girl is 100x better than texting. It just proves that you have more balls than most guys.

Cheers
 
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