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Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

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Damn dudes destroyed the thread starter.
All I gotta say is why does it matter, if he had a crappy neg, if it works it works, sometimes chicks are weird like that. I'd hate for the dude to be doing good then change up cause of what some dudes off the net said, then f uck up. I thought the neg was kinda lame too but if it works then whatever Im happy for him. Also you guys seem way too sure about him failing after that line, I doubt that would be the be all end all of that, if it dont work out it could be for many reasons or he could have f ucked up later but if she reacted well to it I dont see the prob.

Maybe u guys can make fun of me too Im just sayin even if it was a crappy neg that doesnt mean his chances are 0. Im just saying hundreds even thousands of guys do things that u guys would say is wrong all the time and they still get chicks so dont be so sure that line will mess everything up. After all b4 u guys came here and read all this stuff most of u had chicks b4 im sure and u had a good time with them and i bet u did something then u would call someone dumb or crazy for doing now

I like some of the lines u other guys used better, but idk if u would be able to come back so quick with that. I mean I could think of a line better than his too but I cant say for sure what I would really say in that situation.

Way too much terminology in this thread for me negs dhv supplication. Im not saying this about anyone in particular but I have the feeling alot of guys here go out with those terms in their head like after saying something they say to themselves 'ha that was a great neg hit' or 'I just dhv'ed her big time' idk maybe im nutso but it seems to me 2 many are concentrating on what they have read here.

Threadstarter, what happened with that older chick btw? You get a number? Date? Seen her since?
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
It may be a crappy neg-hit but calling someone a pedophile is negative none the less. I've said it before and I'll say it again, neg-hits should not be used by anyone unless they really know what they're doing. Most of the time, they're trying to neg at the wrong time thinking it's c/f (like this instance).

You just keep telling yourself that... :rolleyes:
It might be just me, but I've gotten away with the most venomous negs ever. I've made out with chicks whom I've called *****es and sluts to their face. If you make sure the entire conversation is humorous, you can usually not offend them by using these words.

In this case, the OP said she called him a baby in a joking sense. Call her a pedo (cradle-robber if the former is too "negative") in the same joking sense, and guage the response for follow-up
 

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Flabbergasped? said:
It might be just me, but I've gotten away with the most venomous negs ever. I've made out with chicks whom I've called *****es and sluts to their face. If you make sure the entire conversation is humorous, you can usually not offend them by using these words....
You do this to women who are several years older than you?
 

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9 years is my personal best. Either way, we're not talking about calling the older woman a *****, just a pedo.
 

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yeah i wouldn't ever use that line. i could come up with a million better ones.
 

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Flabbergasped? said:
9 years is my personal best. Either way, we're not talking about calling the older woman a *****, just a pedo.
Actually the question was whether did that with older women because you said:
Flabbergasped? said:
I've made out with chicks whom I've called *****es and sluts to their face.
So do you or don't you?
 

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Back to the original post. I don't care if it works or not, I would much rather not have the idea of my mother mentioned with any girl I am trying to lay. :whistle:
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Actually the question was whether did that with older women because you said:


So do you or don't you?
Yea, but I said that in response to you saying some people can't do negs right. I was trying to demonstrate that I could use negs right using that example.

Your whole argument is like saying "Most people can't ski," and when a skier says he can, you respond, "have you ski'd down Mt. Everest yet?"
 

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Flabbergasped? said:
Yea, but I said that in response to you saying some people can't do negs right. I was trying to demonstrate that I could use negs right using that example.

Your whole argument is like saying "Most people can't ski," and when a skier says he can, you respond, "have you ski'd down Mt. Everest yet?"
I'd ask if the skier implies that he has skied down Mt. Everest by jumping from a helicopter.
 

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I would just like to say, when you are talking to a woman that was born before you, never call her an "older" woman to her face. They don't like to be called eldery ladies.
 

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ryannath said:
I would just like to say, when you are talking to a woman that was born before you, never call her an "older" woman to her face. They don't like to be called eldery ladies.
I don't think that they like being called b1tches and sluts either.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
I'd ask if the skier implies that he has skied down Mt. Everest by jumping from a helicopter.
But the skier hasn't implied that he can ski down Mt. Everest, or even K2. Just that he can ski.
 

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it was a good neg hit........the purpose of a neg hit is not to get laid....its to keep the banter up and remain control. Her jaw dropping is THE BENCH MARK reaction you are looking for. The mistake was breaking the silence and appologizing. You could have continued with......whats the matter cats got your tongue. Don't be fizzled by silence.......if a chic gets upset than no way she will ever be able to keep up later on. I said worse and still got laid....maybe not with that chic but the next one. See if you buckle under the silence pressure and borderline on offensive, she has you. You appologizing shifts the power back to her side or levels the playing field. Do you think any other guy could have had the balls to pull that off. She knows you are a tough one to crack.........and sex would be awesome IF she can handle it. Too many guys offering variations on a theme here.....neg hits are just one step at building rapport. You need to NOT appologize n proceed like nothing happened to the next level.
 
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Haha, you handled it excellently!!!! Well done! It was all in jest and wit!!! She understood this!!
 

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You did good kid - the older female, errrr, ho, tries to dominate and place the younger male inferior to her - but no matter the age - the male ALWAYS has the superior position over the female - because it's the natural order of things!!

Your comment shows them your superior position - but in a jokingly manner!
 

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I would have went the other way, I would have escalated sexualy..

HER: Your like a little baby
ME: HAHA well you havent seen what this "Baby," Can do yet....
"Put hand on waist"
ME: But then again....you might not last and would be just wasting my time
 

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Hey nismo Why dont you check the dates of these threads before you reply to them??? Why are you ressurecting a two year old thread to say not to use negs with age?
 

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LOL, I got sucked in, not realizing what an old thread it was till the second page, BUT...

I must add that the OP said the absolutely worst thing he could possibly say, because he cemented into her mind the image of "mommy/son", and that creepy image can never be erased, even if it's considered a joke at the time. She will think about it later.

It's a good idea to remember that when delivering a neg, you never want to give her the creeps by painting a weird picture of the dynamic that exists between you both.
 
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I think some of you are drinking haterade

If it worked of well, nothing is 100% except maybe aids or something

but everyone is this world is different, not all things to be applied to everyone

great job on that I will try that one day
 

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