"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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When Pimping Older Women, check this line

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I was pimping this girl who is 5 years older than me. When the topic of ages came up, I waited a while to see what she'd guess. She guessed 2 years older than I really was, and so I say:

Me: I'm actually 21.
Older Woman (While Smiling and Petting Me): Aww, you're like a little baby.
Me: Haha yeah. I feel like I'm talking to my mom right now.
Older Woman: (Smiles and Jaw Drops, 4 seconds pass)
Me: (Grabs her shoulder) Haha. Just kidding.
 
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Good example of why guys should stay away from neg-hits if they aren't good at them.
 

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It would have been good for humor had he not been trying to "Pimp" the older woman; he was trying to be funny, yet it disqualified him instantly.

It would have been ok had he kept busting her balla a little more, with disregard to her response, but him explaining himself in an apologetic way totally blew his slight chance.
 

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Let me guess. You never got la1d with this lady.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Notice that he had to bite and tell her that he was just joking... I guess he even realized that it wasn't funny.
 

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why didnt you juss ask her to breast feed you.


sheesh youngsters...never know what to say
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Notice that he had to bite and tell her that he was just joking... I guess he even realized that it wasn't funny.
lol any time you offend someone and have to apologize for it, you are going nowhere. C&F should be funny and not offensive and there should be no appology for it.

Example:

You: I'm actually 21.
Older Woman: Aww, you're like a little baby.
You: Yeah I am, but I stopped wetting my bed 2 days ago so I am a big boy now.

See with C&F you don't need to give it to her right away, you need to play with her words so that you and her can laugh from it and then after a while slowly steer the conversation where you want it to go.
 

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lol. she was joking when she dropped her jaw. and i was laughing AT her when i apologized, like "haha, j/k"

even though i didn't include that detail, you guys miss the point, and it's sad. i got a laugh out of making this girl's jaw drop. you have to keep things in perspective when pimping.

her getting a shocked laugh out of it too was just icing on the cake.
 

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dynamicallyidle said:
lol. she was joking when she dropped her jaw. and i was laughing AT her when i apologized, like "haha, j/k"

even though i didn't include that detail, you guys miss the point, and it's sad. i got a laugh out of making this girl's jaw drop. you have to keep things in perspective when pimping.

her getting a shocked laugh out of it too was just icing on the cake.
Do you believe that she thought it was as amusing as you felt it was?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Haha…

Am I meant to use this line next time I’m out with an older chick, lol… I dunno, I’ve done chicks in their early 30s and never once felt like committing such a faux pas

Seriously… don’t drop an age-themed neg hit… I don’t even know if you could categorize it as being a neg-hit… it’s more like a bad joke… how are you going to compare a chick that’s in her mid 20s to your mother when you’re trying to tap that ass later? Instant DQ maaan...
 

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i find girls are so insecure that you don't really have to neg hit them, only when they are total biatches.
 

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Ashley Chuckles said:
Haha…

Am I meant to use this line next time I’m out with an older chick, lol… I dunno, I’ve done chicks in their early 30s and never once felt like committing such a faux pas

Seriously… don’t drop an age-themed neg hit… I don’t even know if you could categorize it as being a neg-hit… it’s more like a bad joke… how are you going to compare a chick that’s in her mid 20s to your mother when you’re trying to tap that ass later? Instant DQ maaan...
Nah. She came up to me and initiated flirtation with me to be a ****tease. And then she tries to neg me by calling me a baby. I had to come back strong.

Plus she's only 26. If she is made insecure by me calling her a mother, even though she looks NOTHING like one, then she's got issues that I don't want to deal with.
 

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Was a crappy neg.

A better one:

Her: You're like a little baby.
You: It's good that you're a pedophile then.

The double meaning is just too powerful. She will screw you right there.
 

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Flabbergasped? said:
Was a crappy neg.

A better one:

Her: You're like a little baby.
You: It's good that you're a pedophile then.

The double meaning is just too powerful. She will screw you right there.
This isn't even a neg...And it's an okay line, but it's not for this situation.

Imagine it's your first time talking to this girl, and just because of your age, she thinks you are low-value. You are not in a spot where you can flirt effectively with her. You have to DHV for a longer while than usual first, and THEN you can start flirting in a later hour.

She saw me as a pretty much a kid compared to her. You have to go beyond the simple C+F to raise your social value in this situation.

For a little more background, she was joking when she called me a baby. She said it with a smile on her face, and used it as an excuse to start petting me and touching me. And when I said just kidding, I said it with a chuckle on my face, and I used it as an excuse to touch HER.

Supplication is more in your BODY LANGUAGE than it is in your words. And trust me, there was no supplication.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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dynamicallyidle said:
This isn't even a neg...And it's an okay line, but it's not for this situation.
It may be a crappy neg-hit but calling someone a pedophile is negative none the less. I've said it before and I'll say it again, neg-hits should not be used by anyone unless they really know what they're doing. Most of the time, they're trying to neg at the wrong time thinking it's c/f (like this instance).
dynamicallyidle said:
Supplication is more in your BODY LANGUAGE than it is in your words. And trust me, there was no supplication.
You just keep telling yourself that... :rolleyes:
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
It may be a crappy neg-hit but calling someone a pedophile is negative none the less. I've said it before and I'll say it again, neg-hits should not be used by anyone unless they really know what they're doing. Most of the time, they're trying to neg at the wrong time thinking it's c/f (like this instance).

You just keep telling yourself that... :rolleyes:
Hah. You're kind of a know-it-all and an ass, but that's okay: You weren't there when it happened. Maybe your past experience when using similar lines to what I used was negative, but that doesn't mean everyone else will have the same experience as you - I didn't.
 

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Whateva dogg.. check dis shiit right heere yo! Dis line is tha realnezzz bro, like peep it- a neg hit and like I own made b1tchez with dis yo!

K, whacha do is say:

"Yo, does you know why I be talking to you right now?"

And she will be like this yo:

"........."

so you wait...and den you drop it on her:

"it's cuz you got a VAGINA!"

For real yo, out.

Best neg ever.
 

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dynamicallyidle said:
Hah. You're kind of a know-it-all and an ass, but that's okay: You weren't there when it happened. Maybe your past experience when using similar lines to what I used was negative, but that doesn't mean everyone else will have the same experience as you - I didn't.
Well, we can definitely tell that you will have a lot to offer to the forum from your vast experience. We'll all enjoy reading your subsequent words of wisdom.
 

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Ashley Chuckles said:
Haha…

Am I meant to use this line next time I’m out with an older chick, lol… I dunno, I’ve done chicks in their early 30s and never once felt like committing such a faux pas

Seriously… don’t drop an age-themed neg hit… I don’t even know if you could categorize it as being a neg-hit… it’s more like a bad joke… how are you going to compare a chick that’s in her mid 20s to your mother when you’re trying to tap that ass later? Instant DQ maaan...
Nah. I wasn't trying to bag her that night. She convinced me at that moment that I needed to DHV big time before I could start accepting her and then flirting with her. I did what I needed to do. I'll be seeing more of her in the future too :).
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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