"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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When Needyness and constant contact becomes attractive?

HeyPachuco!

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So yeah, this girl I'm fvcking always gives me pillow talk afterwards on how her PREVIOUS guys have been. I was expecting to hear bad reports on them, but this one actually surprised me, I had to write this.

Shes about a solid 7 in looks, but her body rivals that of girls in the Thick Curvy Girls thread on Anything Else. She's intelligent, sarcastic and humourous. I know theres some domestic situations which she doesn't discuss, but for her age, she has HUGE RESPONSIBLITIES.

She got into What Type of Guy She Goes For, how true this is, I don't know. Listening and believing are two different notions. Heres what she said;

"Hmmm I love intelligence, so someone who holds themself in a intelligent way.
Obviouslly someone who calls me 24/7 and texts me lovely messages. A sense of humour is a must and they must appreciate my time out with the girls.

Also dresses nice, someone who can make my girls jealous & takes control."

I called her out on the texting and lovely messaging bullshyt, and she replied she likes to know her boyfriend is THINKING ABOUT HER, I couldn't really proceed with that one, so I just changed the subject.

She calls me a BYTCH, stuck up and d!ckheaded for not being like what shes used to, somehow I'm still tagging her. I have no problem losing contact with this broad, so I think I'll experiment basis only with what she said (calling 24/7and the lovey dovey messages) or is it too late?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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HeyPachuco! said:
She calls me a BYTCH, stuck up and d!ckheaded for not being like what shes used to, somehow I'm still tagging her. I have no problem losing contact with this broad, so I think I'll experiment basis only with what she said (calling 24/7and the lovey dovey messages) or is it too late?
The fact that she's banging you speaks volumes here. Go by actions, not words. Do what you want, but I think if you start with the neediness, you'll lose her.

Of course if you have lot's of plates to go around and you don't really care, give it a shot and see what happens! :D
 

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This is advise to keep a girl in this situation.

What she gave you was insight into the feeling she will absolutely NEED to have at some point, which is to feel appreciated and valued. right now your still interesting to her, but as soon as the interest is replaced with feelings, and you still have your stuck up/dichead/a$$hole routine, she WILL grown old of it, start fights, get jealous, expect more, etc.. etc..

As soon as she starts to really "like" you, shes going to feel the value giving isn't mutual. To keep her, you will need to slightly start giving her more value, as in: a cute text message or two, followed by a funny joke about how shes such a dork

You don't have to be act "needy" to "show" interest, but many guys only know of the needy route to show interest though.

Not changing anything, will not keep this girl around, friends with benefits do not last for this very reason, its human nature to develop feelings for someone you are being intimate with, and women develop then on average, much faster then men.
 

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kingsam said:
dont change what you are doing!

Aahah, yeah just thought about it. I won't bother experimenting, plus I just found out she is seeing some other guy (not that she can't because we aren't exclusive), but she gave the impression she was. So on that note, I'll keep it mean and keen.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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kingsam said:
dont change what you are doing!

THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD BE LISTENING TO.
 

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dude if anything you can joke to her C+F that she secretly loves the "challenge" of you not always replying, coz she gets to think about you all the time!

her calling you a bytch etc is obv in a good way, but itsalso an internal struggle with her social conditioning from Cozmo n all the female brainwashing saying she needs to control the guy, and he needs to be her puupy dog doormat contacting her 100X a day!
 

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You're doing great! She's trying to trap you into becoming submissive to her. Don't do that. Change for no one but yourself.
 
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