When Ladies Flake

[Ladiesssman]

I've been readin tips on Don Juan for a few weeks. Glad to have found this forum. So I did applied the tips I have learned from this forum. That is to be funny and confident. It helps make people more comfortable around me.

One evening, two of my friends and I were eating at this korean barbecue restaurant. We were sitting next to the table full of girls, 4 of them around college age and 2 little children. They were all pretty decent looking. So my friend told me that it might be an all girl nite out. Some of them were eyeing at our tables because we were all three guys. My friend was teasing me of how the girls were checking me out. Well, impossible because I'm not all that great when it comes to look. I've never been funny and popular either. But I must admit having read some of the posts on don juan loosen me up a bit. But I would think that the girls were checking me out, or even us out. They were just looking because it's their fun night and we happen to sit at a table next to them.

Awhile after one of the girls brought a birthday cake. Hmmm it's someone's birthday. My friend said to me, "I bet you a hundred bucks if you can get them to share the cake with us." I shook his hand with a belief that I can get the girls to share the cake.

Continuing with the story, I walked up to the girl's table, then asked, "Whose birthday is it?" One of the girl pointed to the birthday girls. "Oh! can we join?" I asked. Let us join and celebrate with you, I asked them. Then I acted as the lead of the singer, and all of us were singing happy birday. They seemed to enjoy our companion. Then I asked, "the cake looks good. Make sure you don't forget us." The birthday girl cut the cake and gave each of us, me and my friends, a plate. I was feeling so good because it was the first time I was so brave and confident. Then we went back to our seat to resume eating.

Then my friend wanted to challenge me more. "I bet you another hundred dollar if you can get the girl's number," he said to me. I told him"You're going to lose again, man." I was so confident. So what I did was I turned to the girl that sits at the side of the table closest to us and asked "Do you live around here?" She said yes. Then I carried on the conversation with her. I joked with her about how they look like they're still in high school and they laughed. Then I ask "What do you guys like to do for fun?" "Eatingm" one rsponded to me. I continued with my questions "Do you like to dance?" They said yes. so I said "Lets go clubbing sometimes." They all seem to pay attention to me. And they seemed to want to go. And I told them, "don't forget to give us your number before you leave." Before they left, the birthday girl gave me her number. I was happy like hell.

My friend was shockingly impressed of how brave I behaved.

The next night, I called the girl up. When she picked up, she told me that she was in the middle of dinner and that she'll call me in 30 minutes. This was the birthday girl. Then I didn't receive any phone call back for the whole night. 3 days after I called her again in the evening. She picked up the phone, and I told her I was the guy she met at the korean restaurant and one who celebrated birthday with her. She just hung up. The incident pissed me off. So a minute after, I called her again and she did not answer. All I heard was the answer machine, so I spoke to her voicemail, "Kim, I'm just wondering, if you don't want to talk with me, why give me your phone number. What you're doing isn't nice. Thanks and have a nice evening." Then I hung up.

The story is yes I did everything with good confidence and won the bet. The girls seem to enjoyed the conversation with me and my friends. But the girls were flaking. Did this ever happen to you? What do you do in a situation like this?

 

[Bilogomja]

this type of sh** has happened to me before. I was at work and there was this girl that I was into whom I figured was into me as well (because she obviously was giving me the signs). SO eventually I walked up to her and asked her for her phone number, got it. Well I called her and she was saying garbage like "oh, I cant do anything with you, im busy, blah blah blah" type of trash. In response I told the chick "ok, whatever we should hang out someother time" which in translation meant:

FINE YOU STUPID ASS *****, YOU DONT HAVE THE TIME FOR ME? WELL F*** YOU, IM DOING YOU A FAVOR BY ASKING YOU OUT, AND YOU REJECT ME? ME OF ALL PEOPLE? WELL F*** YOU, BECAUSE I DONT NEED YOUR STUPID ASS.

and that was that, I never wasted my time with the b**** again.

So in your case, Id just drop the b**** man, you shouldn't have to take s*** like that. Dont waste your time on such a woman (you cant win 'em all).

 

[diablo]

Congratulations on breaking out of your shell and becoming more aggressive and confident, whether you believed you were or not. The way I see it is that your friend betting you $100 on each event served as a huge motivator in your success. You visualized that you would win that bet, and each time your visualizations turned into self-fufilling prophesies, as they often will. What you're expecting is a little unreasonable, and that is "instant success". You're going to be rejected by more girls than you'll have acceptance from. It's a statistical fact, unless you've either got more money than God or have looks like that of a supermodel. The worst thing that you could let this event do to you would be shatter your self-confidence. I am certain that if you keep going out and acting the way you said you did, that you'll have girls who will be calling you before the end of the month. It's a matter of putting yourself in as many situations to maximize the potential people you have to meet...

 

[Blue Phoenix]

When Ladies Flake:

You say NEXT!

 

[EpsilonArmati]

The important thing is, did he give you the money?

 

[Maverick001]

Originally posted by EpsilonArmati
The important thing is, did he give you the money?

LOL.

Yeah Ladiesssman did your friend pay up?


Ladiesssman, major props on having the balls to make the approach and get the digits.

Don't concern yourself about the flakiness of that girl who gave you her number. We've all had that happen to us at one time or another. You'll pull other chicks and get other numbers. No biggie.

I think the girl flaked on you because she was so strongly attracted and interested at the time that afterwards she got scared and didn't know what to do.

Just my 2 cents.

Cheers,
Mav

 

[TizZle]

You called her too early ? maybe ?

 

[disciple]

I agree with Maverick001 because I have a girl that I work with that is unquestionably hot for me but has alot of baggage from a recent boyfriend, problems with her children's father, etc.

She started cooking for me and hanging up under me and buying me lunch and asking me to spend time with her outside of work but when I called to get up with her, she was always going through some drama about something.

I won't waste time with all the details but even though she has the hots for me she is scared to get involved with me because she has all these issues and doesn't want to be hurt again.

By the way, stay away from girls with too many issues and drama in their lives. Unless you can bang it quickly, its not worth the trouble.

 

[oda]

all you can really do is say: *****ES!, then say next

 

[NoMoreMisterNiceGuy]

street approaches are tough..we all know that
Women flirt by nature ... eventhough she doesn't give a fv ck about you, rarely women would go "I'm not interested but thanks anyways"
you will find those but those are rare...
women are born public relations specialists, so she is concerned about her own feelings, she hates feeling as the rejecter, as the "bad woman" turning a man down, so most of the times women will give you their number and reject yuo later anyways ...
she avoids the situation of saying to your face "I'm not interested" ... THAT to a women is uncomfortable to the extreme...
you make sure you don't call her the same day at least ...
some take the rule of 2-3 or 4 or even 7 days after getting the number ...
it is always gonna be easier with setups... but if you wait for friends to set you up ...u could wait for years to some hot chick come along your way
make sure you keep doing what you been doing ... you are not a loser at all you are doing cuz your a male ... losers are theones who won't approach a woman, out of fear or whatever
REMEMBER THIS: sounds like you are starting to do this cold approach work...kudos for you..Im doing the same but with time and in my experience I have found that If I get discouraged cuz women flake, they give me fake numbers, dont respond etc etc etc ... I would be down all the time, and also would stop approaching women and LOSING opportunities with babes along the way. So think this cold approaching thing as a big VIDEO GAME:
Whenever and wherever you see a hot chick, you go approach (score points) in your video game and from time to time this game will give you bonus points (her real number, dates, kiss, get laid, etc or whatever you want) ... ever played a game where you had to shoot at something and you got 1000 point or more with that shot? ...surely you have
FOCUS on getting better at approaching women, focus in being more ****y, more funny, may be getting a friend out of her and she will set you up with her female friends (happened to me ),
your goal is:
1.develope your social skills
to do that you HAVE to approach women, starting a convo with them, asking for the number, etc
SHE controls the outcome (she decides if she is attracted to you or not)

 

[Paradox]

Awsome post NoMoreMisterNiceGuy.

For the most part women are afraid of confrontation and would rather stand a man up or just not return calls.

Flaky behavior and excuses from them are a sure sign of Low Interest.

 

[Maverick001]

SHE controls the outcome (she decides if she is attracted to you or not)

NoMoreMisterNiceGuy,

I agree with all the contents of your post save what's in the quote above.

Attraction isn't a choice. If a guy knows how to trigger and amplify a girl's attraction for him, then he's WAY AHEAD of most guys that are clueless about pulling chicks.

Just my 2 cents.

Cheers,
Mav

 

[BramhaBull60]

Flaking Is A Part Of Dating

I'm finding as I stumble around trying to be a good DJ that I will get 3 flakes for every 10 numbers I get. You can't try to read people. Some women are just attention *****s. They will give you the imepression that you are the greatest guy on earth, and then laugh at you to their friends when your not around. It happens. You just have to find someone who will respect you, and not worry about the *****es that don't. I always stick to one rule: Its not you, its not them, its human nature. You can't control it. But you can control your reactions.

 

[MinCO]

What a crazy chick. Consider yourself lucky she showed you this early on rather than dragging it out.

Keep on doing what you're doing though. Get their numbers, weed through them until you get a good one.

 

[Ladiesssman]

Is this all the tips I got? Where's everyone else?

The friend that bet with me is a good friend. He used to ask me if I go to message place with him. I never had the chance. So I offer him instead of giving me money, to take me to a message place and he'll do the treating. He agrees. I've never been there but knowing he knows a hot place where the chics are, I'll join him. Man, hope these girls not going to freak me out. Lol.

But going back to the case. Had my friend bet that I ask her out and get her to go out with me, I would have pursued to win the bet or do all my best. I didn't care about the money. I just care that I win the bet.

Thanks to all the tips. The next time I get a gal's #, I'll wait a week before I call her. See if this would increase any chance.

Girls are sometimes unpredictable. Funny as they are and men still fall for them.

Can you guys, girls, master don juan, pimps, and newbies share some of your experience. Pleeeez.