"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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When is it too much kino?

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I am on week five of sarging and I got concerned today. I was using kino on my most reactive prospect and one of her friends next to her ****blocked me by saying "Does he always touch her like that?" My kino always makes her laugh, smile, or attack me playfully, but I'm starting to worry that other people will start seeing me as a perv instead of being jealous. Is there such thing as too much kino if I'm not getting any negative feedback from her?

A sidenote I forgot to mention, my hands are always cold. I have no idea why. Is there anyway I can raise the natural temperature of my hands? Should I just wear gloves all the time? (Biker gloves are popular at my school).
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Things I have done:
Playing with her hair (She has really curly hair and it is fun)
Touching her arm (She wears a sweatshirt so she can't tell how cold my hands are)
Putting my hands over her eyes when I'm neg hitting her about vision
other random stuff

See she's Vietnamese and though she can speak English really well now, I still use it for neg hits and playing with her words which frustrates her and she makes a fist at me and play hits me a lot. My rapport responses are almost all making fun of what she says (I'm a comedian) and it drives her crazy in a good way. She once mentioned that she had a bf after her friend warned me in front of her (I was picking her up to "carry her to the library"), but she has yet to even mention him since.

Is picking up girls jokingly a good move? I was carrying around a random freshy I do some acting with today. Just a short distance of course.
 

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SamRi72 said:
Is picking up girls jokingly a good move? I was carrying around a random freshy I do some acting with today. Just a short distance of course.
I think picking them up is great, Lately almost everytime a girl has come up to hug me I've picked her up and moved her a few feet or so. sometimes with a reason and sometimes without.

What I mean is if a girl walks up to me and hugs me as I'm walking down the hallway I'll say "Hey you" pick her up, in the hug, and turn around then put her back down. Then continue along to class. This way I've taken control of the frame, shown physical strength and sort of negged her by showing that my destination is more important than she is to me. Most of the time they'll come back beside me to try and start convo again.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Plec07 said:
I think picking them up is great, Lately almost everytime a girl has come up to hug me I've picked her up and moved her a few feet or so. sometimes with a reason and sometimes without.

What I mean is if a girl walks up to me and hugs me as I'm walking down the hallway I'll say "Hey you" pick her up, in the hug, and turn around then put her back down. Then continue along to class. This way I've taken control of the frame, shown physical strength and sort of negged her by showing that my destination is more important than she is to me. Most of the time they'll come back beside me to try and start convo again.
LMAO. Brilliant, freaking brilliant!
 
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AHAA I was gonna leave a thread about picking girls up and dude trust me its a good idea, unless you drop them, there are 3 girls who are about 8's that I have started hanging around with. One girl keeps going to others "Let him show you how strong he is by picking you up" When those girls refuse she comes up and says "pick me up" I do this and she like "WOOO" then hugs me for about 10 or 15 minutes and actually kissed me yeterday. In short GOOD IDEA
 

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SamRi72 said:
Things I have done:
Playing with her hair (She has really curly hair and it is fun)
Touching her arm (She wears a sweatshirt so she can't tell how cold my hands are)
Putting my hands over her eyes when I'm neg hitting her about vision
other random stuff

See she's Vietnamese and though she can speak English really well now, I still use it for neg hits and playing with her words which frustrates her and she makes a fist at me and play hits me a lot. My rapport responses are almost all making fun of what she says (I'm a comedian) and it drives her crazy in a good way. She once mentioned that she had a bf after her friend warned me in front of her (I was picking her up to "carry her to the library"), but she has yet to even mention him since.

Is picking up girls jokingly a good move? I was carrying around a random freshy I do some acting with today. Just a short distance of course.
Oh God. XD
 

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Plec07 said:
I think picking them up is great, Lately almost everytime a girl has come up to hug me I've picked her up and moved her a few feet or so. sometimes with a reason and sometimes without.

What I mean is if a girl walks up to me and hugs me as I'm walking down the hallway I'll say "Hey you" pick her up, in the hug, and turn around then put her back down. Then continue along to class. This way I've taken control of the frame, shown physical strength and sort of negged her by showing that my destination is more important than she is to me. Most of the time they'll come back beside me to try and start convo again.
That's true game. Props.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Great Tupac quote there, the Shocker.

Skills I need to work on:
Peacocking- tough to do when the school has uniforms. Any ideas?
Push/Pull method
 

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i was kinda wonderin about this too, but with pda's more than anything. do yall think theres a line you shouldn't cross as far as that goes... like at the movies or bowling or anywhere. I kinda feel like my friends and/or random strangers are staring at us whenever i try to either kiss or hug or whatever with my gf.
 

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Just thought I'd pop in and give a tip for peacocking under (an arguably retarded) dress-code.

For me, I'll usually wear a blazer over a normal t-shirt (solid color). None of the faculty seem to catch on. Of course, that's my own style; Other than that, it's all about your own creativity.

Also, (if your dresscode requires a "collared" shirt) you could actually take an old shirt, cut the collar off, sew up the frayed edges so it lays over your shoulders comfortably, and put that under a normal t-shirt whenever you need to be in-dresscode :up:
 

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Yes I think Plec is the next David DeAngelo... He's some kind of genius at this sort of thing...
What me? No of course not, I'm just a spotty lil' teenager with too much time on his hands so I analyse ever social interaction I make or see happen lol :whistle: .

It just takes practise. You learn to break down the dynamics of everything. I treat social behaviour like I treat improving a song i've written. I break it down into each piece, drums, bass, guitar, keys. Analyse the pros and cons. Figure out how to remove the cons and then fit it all back together.

Even now I still make mistakes because I fail to spot problems with an approach to a situation I havn't been in before while I'm out with a girl. If I had the time I have here before replying to posts, in the field I would have shagged 100 girls by now. As would many other people on here. Although my mind is starting to act in the right way naturally from going out and practising.

It's like Tyler Durdon said: You can learn 100 times as much about being a PUA from 1 night in the field than you can from reading 100 different books on being a PUA (or something along those lines lol)
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Plec, great advice.
But remember, there will allways be someone better than you :) .
 

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Lol I hope there will be or I'll lose me drive and become an overweight flabby object whos existance is purely to make ass-indentations in couches. Only problem is they'll be such big indentations that other people would just get stuck in them till they starved to death. So I would get fired from that job, become depressed and eventually commit suicide buy having a giant couch dropped on me. Only that will fail coz my layer of fat would make it simply bounce off me, making me yet more depressed.

(As you can tell I'm a bit bored right now lol)

Just so I don't get flamed for making a useless post I'll add that it's true if there is nobody better than you then you'll lose your drive. When people started telling me I was the best guitarist in my year, and the year above I lost my drive to carry on learning and didn't really improve much over the next few months till I realised my playing was getting sloppy.
 

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Plec07 said:
What me? No of course not, I'm just a spotty lil' teenager with too much time on his hands so I analyse ever social interaction I make or see happen lol :whistle: .

It just takes practise. You learn to break down the dynamics of everything. I treat social behaviour like I treat improving a song i've written. I break it down into each piece, drums, bass, guitar, keys. Analyse the pros and cons. Figure out how to remove the cons and then fit it all back together.

Even now I still make mistakes because I fail to spot problems with an approach to a situation I havn't been in before while I'm out with a girl. If I had the time I have here before replying to posts, in the field I would have shagged 100 girls by now. As would many other people on here. Although my mind is starting to act in the right way naturally from going out and practising.

It's like Tyler Durdon said: You can learn 100 times as much about being a PUA from 1 night in the field than you can from reading 100 different books on being a PUA (or something along those lines lol)
Another good post.
 

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Here's the Tyler D quote: You learn more about pickup in one night of approaching women than in a lifetime of reading books
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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