"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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When is it ok to have feelings for a chick?

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This has been something ive been contemplating on for a while now. I know alot of us on here have had the problem of falling way too fast and too easy and so we have this defensive shield up to be able to "control" our emotions. But when is it ok to let the guard down just bit? How long after youve been dating a chick is it ok to let some emotions seep through? I figured that we can't be on the defensive forever but we CAN be on the lookout....
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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wait for her to tell / show you first. i to became infatuated very easy in my life, but we learn with mistakes dont we?
 

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aye, as do I, Im working on it, and hopefuly getting better at that.

Then there women are tricky.
 

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does it really matter? you woudlnt be dating her in the first place if u didnt like her.


sure dont fall in love with her at first, that comes with time. but also dont get hung up on small things like when it's ok to show feelings.

feelings will grow with time and they will show more gradually as they develop. from both u and her.
 

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As a bit of an aside to this, you don't ever really have to tell her how you feel. Instead show her. Example: one of my plates regularly tells me she misses me and likes me. I never once told her I miss her or like her. You really don't need to. Instead I show her that I'm grateful to be with her when we do spend time together by always looking my best, being in the best of moods, and making sure we have fun whatever we do. Ultimately it's about being a constant challenge. I know it may sound silly, but when you begin telling her you miss her and you like her and all this other stuff, her interest level will often drop a few notches because, well, she knows she has you by the balls and doesn't have to try as hard. Just picture the "manliest" man you can think of, and try to picture him saying "I miss you, I really like you" to his woman.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Raikojo17 said:
does it really matter? you woudlnt be dating her in the first place if u didnt like her.


sure dont fall in love with her at first, that comes with time. but also dont get hung up on small things like when it's ok to show feelings.

feelings will grow with time and they will show more gradually as they develop. from both u and her.
Theres actually a 2 step process that I follow nowadays for safety.

Im first INTERESTED, then from there, I decide if I LIKE the chick.

Just like chicks, you can be dating someone because you're INTERESTED in them not necessarily that you like them YET. Its during that time where our job as guys comes into play. Thats the time we attempt to boost their interest level in us. Thats a little something I learned from Mystery.
 

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md3sign said:
As a bit of an aside to this, you don't ever really have to tell her how you feel. Instead show her. Example: one of my plates regularly tells me she misses me and likes me. I never once told her I miss her or like her. You really don't need to. Instead I show her that I'm grateful to be with her when we do spend time together by always looking my best, being in the best of moods, and making sure we have fun whatever we do. Ultimately it's about being a constant challenge. I know it may sound silly, but when you begin telling her you miss her and you like her and all this other stuff, her interest level will often drop a few notches because, well, she knows she has you by the balls and doesn't have to try as hard. Just picture the "manliest" man you can think of, and try to picture him saying "I miss you, I really like you" to his woman.
Ive actually got this down. I never say how I feel.
 

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There is no time limit.

I mean realistically it isn't going to happen over night but it will happen much quicker for some than others.

Remember to ask yourself, though, when you do feel real feelings for her, "is this justified?" I know it's hard to be objective when you feel for someone but ask yourself, as objectively as possible, is she worth this? Are these feelings real?

And never lose sight of the fact that as real as they seem, if the girl does do something that isn't worthy of your affections, that it is your power to break them off.
 

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Dude. This is a tricky area. Even if a girl really likes you, once she figures you are in love with her she could still get freaked out and lose interest. Basically most girls hate guys who are needy. And when guys fall for girls they usually end up being needy and lose the qualities that made the girls fall for them in the first place.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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EternalBachelor said:
Dude. This is a tricky area. Even if a girl really likes you, once she figures you are in love with her she could still get freaked out and lose interest. Basically most girls hate guys who are needy. And when guys fall for girls they usually end up being needy and lose the qualities that made the girls fall for them in the first place.
EXACTLY!

I should have mentioned that this was something for myself to know rather than for the both of us.
 

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If I don't "have feelings" I won't pursue her. But let your actions tell the story. If you start foaming over at the mouth about how you feel she'll get bored. It's like salt - a little and she'll find it savory, too much and she spits you out.

A lesson I have sadly learned the hard way. As someone else posted, it's tricky, but basically you want to be in the position where she is supplicating you and you are rewarding her. If an "I love you" is an appropriate reward, go for it. The action is less important than the dynamic behind it in my experience.

As an aside, this sounds sort of hateful or anti-woman, but really it's the way humans are wired to work and if you kindly (re)enforce that behavior everyone wins.
 

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EternalBachelor said:
Dude. This is a tricky area. Even if a girl really likes you, once she figures you are in love with her she could still get freaked out and lose interest. Basically most girls hate guys who are needy. And when guys fall for girls they usually end up being needy and lose the qualities that made the girls fall for them in the first place.
Word.
 
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