"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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When is a good time to make your EXIT?

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I've always been criticised by my bestfriend on how I "OVERCOOK" when I am DJing a girl. The problem is I dont know when to either make a good solid move or to when to make your exit when you know you have laid a good foundation and that she will start thinking about you in a sexual way.

Yes I mess this part up bigtime. It seems like I have put a slack on the line but I'm too scared to leave early because I think I haven't done enough to Dj this girl or keep her attracted to me. My friend is an expert but he wont tell me (trade secrets i guess lol).

Any help guys?? Wanna share a trade secret lol
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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your friend hasnt told you? he is either an arse or doesnt know himself :)
 

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Nah hes awesome with women...He said he learnt the hardway and its just I gotta find out my way too. Its all about the trial and error

I suppose he doesnt want me to become too reliant. But Im so stuck I dunno if I will ever get better at it.
 

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I usually try to stay in a set between 15-25 mins, because I don't want to rush things and have her end flaking me so i can spend the extra 15 mins trying to get a solid number close, I also atleast try to get a kiss in too depending on how much interest she has towards me at that time.
 

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When your gut tells you to.. there is no set time
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Yea the thing is I usually overstay too long and do too much...Like i need to know the balance so that i dont leave without making an impression or put out all the good sh*t all at once
 

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When she has shown some interest in you and has become attracted I like to gain some rapport because thats with makes the chances of her flaking less. Its not about the Quantity of the sets its the quality, you learn way more if you approach sets and stay in for 15-30 mins than to approach a set for 5 mins and move on to the next. This is why I prefer staying in sets longer than just crashing and burning.

For a break down would be something like this
1. 3-10 mins of attraction

Time varies due to logistics(On train, bus, in a rush,etc) and also her attraction towards me before I even open.

2. 5-10 mins of qualifying

Time varies due to logistics

3. Rapport
10mins of games, connection, elicting values, etc

Well ya I usually work around that timeframe. I try not to rush everything because this is suppose to be fun for me and her so why rush. An also so i can lower the chances of getting flaked.
 

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Like how do you know she has given you cues that signals you've done enough to attract her. What specific IOI's should you look for?
 

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I usually like to get atleast 5 different IOIs just to be on the safe side. Or if not then about 3 IOIs that she is consisently doing.

Some IOIs that I think are big:
- Laughs (Not just at certain things but even little things that aren't even considered funny)
- Kino (I don't mean just touch you once for the whole interaction but few times and also depends where too, its a bigger IOI if she grabs your meat intead of your arm.)
- She trys to gain rapport (Whats your name?, Where do you live?, all dat crap that would be considered in rapport.)

There are more IOIs that can go even more into each of those but thats a good overview. Another thing that I like to do after I think she has given enough IOIs is to do a quick compliance test. So maybe I'd make her hold something of minds while I go use the bathroom or run in that story and check something. That way she is locked in and if she does take it I know she is interested because its rare you would see a stranger hold something for somebody and wait for them to comeback. Or maybe ask her to hand you something.

Basicall what I would consider IOIs is anything positive that you would consider her doing because she is interested. You wouldn't think if she said "can you teach me how to roller skate" as being a IOD because this is positive and she wants you to teach her. A good way to know that her asking you to teach them to do something is a IOI is to say to her "Let jack teach you" (Some guy she isn't interested in or barely talks too) most likely she wouldn't want that.

For the kino part another IOI would be if your both sharing the same space comfortably, like yall arms are all next to each other and both of yall don't seem to mind, legs touching each other, etc. For example 1 day on the train kinda crowded and this hb8 is standing right infront of me her lower body is amazing so anyway its not that crowded but yet her thighs are between my knee and she is grinding on it and leaning forward once in awhile to the point where my knee is like 5 inches away from her pusvy. She is there dancing (had head phones on) and singing. That would be considered an IOI.

Takes a bit of calibration to be able to spot certain IOIs. Hoped this helpped you out.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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u ride out when u get the digits!!!...make an excuse to leave...say yur liming wit the guys and you've got to get back or sumthin that's believabe!!!
 

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Always end on a good note. Sell a stock when its high. Or think of it like a television series - the best shows end when they are the most popular. Now translate that to woman.

When the woman is the most interested in you - thats the time to leave. You should be the one to leave - if she suggests she is getting tired or has to work early the next day or whatever then you have overcooked it.
 

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Yea I did that today...Did a number close on a girl

I invited her ona trip but not sure if she is going to come. She told me she is dating someone but I never asked if that was serious.

As soon as I got the number I was gone in like 20secs.

I have another question...What do you do if the girl you are running game on is someone you have already know or not a complete stranger? How about the one in a date? Should you then be more persistent?

I have successes when the girl is actually about to just sleep and then shes all relaxed and defences are down. So Im not really sure whether to keep on going and strike when the iron is hot or wait for another moment. So could you guys elaborate it for me?
 
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