When is a good time to begin holding hands, putting arms around her, etc. w/a girl?

[solo1]

Unfortunately the bible doesnt talk about the little things, but little things can make a difference too!

Some questions:
When do you begin holding hands with a girl?
when do you start putting your arm around her shoulders (for a long period of time, kinda like bf/gf)?
when to kiss during dates (often or occasionally) instead of end of dates?
when to take/walk her home?

I mean sure rush these and the girl might think you're just after sex or are desperate, take these slow and sometimes she'll think you're mr. safety or not interested in her sexually.

Im guessing there are no specific rules or # of dates to guarantee when to do this. But would you guys say do it when ti feels right? or are there really rules...

But anyway im asking cause on my last date she sighed occasionally. But during the date, a lot of kino, great EC, and chemistry going on. At the end of date she seemed a little insecure and asking me certain questions which revealed her high IL. She was that way cause i didnt ask for her #(didnt matter to me cause i could get it next weekend) and i was a little aloof. sighing must be an indication of something she wants?

 

[ghost21]

Very good questions, I'd like to know as well.

 

[Damian]

Look for IOI's. Usually you can just hold a girl's hand or put an arm over her shoulder without and IOI's, but if you want to be safe, try after one IOI. But number- and kiss-closing are generally preceded by 3 IOI's. This is the generally accepted "rule", but it is VERY flexible. If you think it's appropriate, just DO it. Let her initiate some of the contact too. If you lead all the physicals, you'll start to seem desperate. Have the guts to take initiative and immediately seize an opportunity, but have the willpower to hold yourself back when appropriate.

-Damian

 

[Damian]

I apologise if that was a bit vague, but IOI's are Indicators of Interest for some of you newcomers.

Examples:

-twirling her hair while she talks to you - self explanatory
-crossing and uncrossing her legs while she's talking to you - this is like a woman's way of saying "hey, look at my sexy legs!"
-exposing her neck - the neck is a very vulnerable and open area, if she is exposing this area to you VERY openly, take it as an IOI, one of the more iffy ones
-tilting her head and giving you puppy eyes - lots of girls do this unintentionally to look cute or curious
-asking you lots and lots of questions in a row - she wants to get to know you better
-squeezing your hand back when you hold and squeeze her hand - self explanatory
-touching - self explanatory
-staying in the conversation even through awkward lulls and silences - if a girl isn't interested in you, she'll find somebody else to talk to
-Sighing - can mean she is expecting you and waiting for you to make a move, but can also mean she's distracted
-Extended eye contact - more than 1-2 seconds can be awkward for acquaintances, but if she holds it, take it
-nervous compliments- account for tone and body language, she's shy and wants to talk to you.

Some of these are arguable subtle and all of them have their exceptions. Just a few ideas to get you guys started.

-Damian

 

[Borgon]

The other guy gave some pretty good advice, but i would leave the hand holding/ luvy dubby type of behavior if you really have feelings for any chick. It all depends what you want but as far for the females that i meet, i dont late them kiss me or show too many signs of affection because there is only one thing that am after and thats her pum pum or being f-buddies.

 

[solo1]

thx for the list of IOI Damian, some of the ones you listed did happen on the date. But since it was just a first date i didnt expect things to move so quickly, which apparently is what she wants.

I guess i'll just have to be more responsive to her IOI the next time, dont want her to think im uninterested.

Also i dont know if it was my mistake or just her lack of dating experience, but on the kiss close...i put my hand on her cheek and turned her face to my direction and went in 90%, she said, "kiss?" than she pecked me on the corner of my lips. And i just accepted it...didnt want to push her out of comfort zone.

Should i continue with 90% next time or go full 100% if the moment is right?

 

[spider_007]

it's called kino, and it's initated as soon as you meet her.

 

[OneArmDeeJay]

There are no rules or road maps when it comes to this.

If you want to hold her hand, DO IT

If you want to kiss her, DO IT

If you want to walk her to the door, DO IT

Just don’t jump her bones or too much touchy feely on the first date unless she is really up on you and/or giving you the signs.

It’s Trial and Error process.

She’ll let you know if she doesn’t want you to do it.

Be a Man and take a little risk here and there

So you live and learn that’s what life is all about.

 

[locarius]

Within 3 minutes.

 

[PRMoon]

Originally posted by locarius
Within 3 minutes.

agreed things like this are only significant if you make them a big deal...or are in junior high.

 

[diablo]

Originally posted by PRMoon
agreed things like this are only significant if you make them a big deal...or are in junior high.