When does "shyt test" cross the line to "unacceptable disrespect"?

[DonJuanForever]

And tmp, hate to keep fvcking wit you, but you also said this

"Some of you seem to think that masculinity means to approach. Haven't you ever noticed though, that the real masculine males who are in control of their masculinity (not being a jerk and hitting 30 girls a day) are the ones the girls are chasing? Girls are the masters of communication, they find ways to communicate their interest to this type of guy. The guys that are hitting on them, sure they'll take em every now and then, but they're history if the girl has value for herself."

So tmp, I have a product that I can sell, I know people are going to want it, so I call them up and set appointments and go tell them about it and close them, and you say there's something wrong with that?

Maybe I should send them a postcard and WAIT FOR THEM TO CALL. I'll be waiting until November.

I gave you that example based on what you said, the real guys who can get all the girls are not approaching....THAT'S THEIR LOST. They know they can get laid, hell if you don't wanna get laid don't, you can still meet the girl and use her for other things, hell she might know somebody famous and you can get free concerts tickets, lol, hell. See, all this being a challenge shyt, means nothing. If a girl wants you, she wants you, call her 4 times a day, sleep on her porch, piss in the back yard, (just an example to make a point, don't do those things) she still wants you. But if she doesn't, she doesn't. Meaning, your behavior is off, you don't behave and give off the vibe I was talking about.

And tmp, girls are the MASTERS OF COMMUNICATION, okay, lol. That's why all these ******** languages are out and Pook made post after post about them. If women are the MASTERS OF COMMUNICATION, then why do they say one thing but mean another? If they are masters of it, they should be about to communicate their feelings, most women don't do that very well, some do, most don't.

And as far as the girl losing value for herself by fvcking a guy, tmp I don't know buddy, it just seems to me like you are very inexperienced. I've fvcked virgin church girls, you can't get no holier! When a girl wants you she wants you! Hell, if Beyonce came and sat on your dyck, you wouldn't tap that? Why, cause you would be losing respect for yourself if you did it? YOUR A FVCKIN MAN, YOU HAVE URGES, SHE'S AN ATTRACTIVE WOMAN, why not? Same with the woman, only in her case, she's doesn't find too many of those attractive guys that much. When she finds them, does she fvck them all, no....why not? Because like you said tmp, most of them stand on the wall and don't approach or don't say shyt and they expect her to "make the move" or "give me a sign," remember what I said in the last reply.....when a woman really is interested in you, she gets shy, so her approaching you, are you kidding me?

And (.) (.), to answer your reply. You said:
"I think evolution just laughed in your face. And trust me bro, when she tests you theres nothing "childish" or "schoolyard behaviour" behind her reasoning. Give a b!tch some credit dude. If it wasnt for your great grandmother weighing up the pros and cons , evaluating which potential suitor would have the best genes and striking the lessers off her list you wouldnt be here talking out your ass today. Have some respect for our "non physical" (theres a hint there) sisters, my male brain thinking friend."

Hey (.) (.) if I came up to you and called you a dirty, stinking, bytch, how would you feel? Would you feel like strong male suitor, would you feel sexy, or would you feel like telling me to fvck off or kicking my azz, or even ignoring me and passing me off like, "Who's this azzhole?" Okay.....the latter right? And why? Because I just disrespected you FOR NO REASON.

So a girl disrespects guys she "likes" to test them to see if they would be good "daddies"......haahahaha. Are you kidding me? Next time you go out and notice a guy whos getting most or all of the chicks' attention in a place, notice how the chicks treat him. They are not disrespecting him, they are not calling him names, they are KISSING HIS AZZ, trying to get him to like her, etc. If a girl is disrespecting you, or should I say "shyt testing you" she is doing that because you PROBABLY LIKES YOU A LITTLE, but because you lack any amount of seriousness, or because you refuse to tell her to not speak to you in that way, she continues to do so because she is probably hoping you will grow some backbone and tell her to shut the hell up and don't come at you like that. Now, she's stop it. ahhaah, I don't know where you guys get your experience from, real life girls or fake ones, but the ones I interact with, don't give me any shyt tests because they know I won't tolerate no shyt like that.

DJF

DJF

 

[typical]

Well said DJF, bottom line is dont take any crap from them, at all no matter what. Back when I was a nice guy and tried to be a good boy around girls I got tested like a bit(h, I had a body that at the beach would make guys envy, yet I had no backbone (still trying to build my backbone up lol).

Since coming to this site and saying to myself well screw this I'm going after what I want, chicks have stopped testing me, no sh!t tests at all, the ones that do even friends I walk away. I dont have time to waste thinking about what the fu(k she meant or why she flaked out or whatever, you give me crap I walk away. There are more then 6 billion people in the world half are girls half of those are not what I want so that leaves around 1 billion girls to chase, 1 girl gives you sh!t just walk away another billion out there. Plus most of the guys out there are either losers who cant even hold a convo up for more then 10 minutes about something interesting other then sports games and porn, how the hell are they gonna get the girl ???

So the bottom line dont take any **** tests none what so ever, dont even call back. If she's really interested she'll contact you, if not fu(k it plenty of girls out there that will be interested.

 

[sstype]

And tmp, hate to keep fvcking wit you, but you also said this

"Some of you seem to think that masculinity means to approach. Haven't you ever noticed though, that the real masculine males who are in control of their masculinity (not being a jerk and hitting 30 girls a day) are the ones the girls are chasing? Girls are the masters of communication, they find ways to communicate their interest to this type of guy. The guys that are hitting on them, sure they'll take em every now and then, but they're history if the girl has value for herself."



So tmp, I have a product that I can sell, I know people are going to want it, so I call them up and set appointments and go tell them about it and close them, and you say there's something wrong with that?

Maybe I should send them a postcard and WAIT FOR THEM TO CALL. I'll be waiting until November.



I gave you that example based on what you said, the real guys who can get all the girls are not approaching....THAT'S THEIR LOST. They know they can get laid, hell if you don't wanna get laid don't, you can still meet the girl and use her for other things, hell she might know somebody famous and you can get free concerts tickets, lol, hell. See, all this being a challenge shyt, means nothing. If a girl wants you, she wants you, call her 4 times a day, sleep on her porch, piss in the back yard, (just an example to make a point, don't do those things) she still wants you. But if she doesn't, she doesn't. Meaning, your behavior is off, you don't behave and give off the vibe I was talking about.


And tmp, girls are the MASTERS OF COMMUNICATION, okay, lol. That's why all these ******** languages are out and Pook made post after post about them. If women are the MASTERS OF COMMUNICATION, then why do they say one thing but mean another? If they are masters of it, they should be about to communicate their feelings, most women don't do that very well, some do, most don't.

I disagree with you here. Now I am probably not as experienced as you but I have seen my fair share of what interested girls and disinterested girls do. A girl that is shy is nothing more than a shy girl. It does not mean she is interested in you. Now I know a shy girl that is interested in me, she does not talk that much but it does not matter. I can see in her body language, the way she gazes at me, that she is attracted to me.

You take a typical, outgoing chick. Always smiling, flirting, all that chick BS to get attention. Very flamboyant. Then you walk in her vicinity...if she is strongly attracted to you, more often than not, she will lose that "confident girl" persona and just go ga-ga over your presence. She starts exhibiting signals of attraction, constant glancing over at the guy, primping, not as talkative, etc.

You're right when you said that Girls are not the masters of communications,
But none of these indirect communications are consciously made by the girls. I mean when they see a guy they find attractive, they can't help but glance over every so often, or fix their hair, or gaze in your eyes when they are talking to you.

Its like when we see a hot girl, we just can't help conveying through eyes and body that "we want you"

But for guys we can override the emotional response to an attractive HB by putting her and ourselves in perspective. If anything, Guys are the masters of communication because with practice we can eventually learn how to control our verbal and body language.

For girls, they are slaves to their emotions. They see a high status, attractive guy (rarity these days) and whatever their conscious thought dictates (he's a jerk, he's a player) deep down inside they are irresistably attracted to him, and those subconsious thoughts will be manifested towards her body language to said guy.

That is why we are always taught to never judge a woman by her words but by her actions.

 

[tmpgstx]

DJF:

I see your points but think you're really putting too much emphasis on the 'conscience' portion of it. It really stems from the subconscious and sstype seems to agree with this as well.

When i said masters of communication, i meant in letting you know they like you and in building relationships. It is in their nature to nuture and that includes relationships.

I like what Destiny writes about that from a woman's point of view. It makes the most sense to me that explains the variance of attraction and also explains how women view masculinity subconsciously.

You say it's in their behavior, i see as more in the guy's body language. He don't have to say and do much and she's strongly attracted to him.

I do have some experience with this. I've been perfecting it a bit and let me tell you, there is some truth to it. The girls come out of the woodwork, and like sstype said, they can't help but keep glancing your way. You can see it in their body language easily.

I suppose it doesn't hurt either that i body-build, but that's all part of my maleness package so to speak. I enjoy doing it and keeps my sex drive high too.