Dhoulmagus
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My grandparents can't fathom the fact that average and ugly girls are just as stuck up as hot girls were back in there day.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
When did it get difficult to even game average girls
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
AttackFormation
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Where are they getting this perspective from? you? other people? (social) media? and what exactly is being said?
amazingswayze
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yes OP, i agree. but there is no context in your post.
It all comes down to entitlement. The value of average women has increased while the value of an average man has decreased. AFC's ^ -> percieved value of HB's ^ as well.
Science.
Sexual selection at its finest.
J. Cole says, "What that taught us, the bad bvtches only want the ballers"
It all comes down to entitlement. The value of average women has increased while the value of an average man has decreased. AFC's ^ -> percieved value of HB's ^ as well.
Science.
Sexual selection at its finest.
J. Cole says, "What that taught us, the bad bvtches only want the ballers"
PeasantPlayer
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OP, I would say about 2007 ish and up maybe a year or 2 later. Gaming average to below average chicks was so easy it was pathetic. Now a days when I step out with the fellas, you can't even game average, chubby below average chicks, they are more stuck up then the prettier women go figure. Its been this way since social media blew up. The ratio of thirsty men increased, and the media pushing feminism and Nicki Minaj down the throats of these women. Plus they have wised up on many of the antics of men.
I find it easier to talk to cuter women now then average or ugly heffas.....its their insecurity shield.
On said note...if you can smoothly start up a conversation with a attractive girl and you are "out of her league looks or financial wise" and you can start a conversation with out creeping her out she will respect you more for being able to talk to her.
I find it easier to talk to cuter women now then average or ugly heffas.....its their insecurity shield.
On said note...if you can smoothly start up a conversation with a attractive girl and you are "out of her league looks or financial wise" and you can start a conversation with out creeping her out she will respect you more for being able to talk to her.
seasonedplayer
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Tinder and other dating apps have destroyed online and offline dating and picking up
Quite simply, girls now get hundreds of 'approaches' every day. Prior to online only guys with balls would approach women. And prior to apps, girls got only a few emails on sites like match
Quite simply, girls now get hundreds of 'approaches' every day. Prior to online only guys with balls would approach women. And prior to apps, girls got only a few emails on sites like match
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
dutchmaster
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In this hookup culture peoplel are fvcking more than ever. Who cares if she's stuck up, she'll still suck your d1ck.
AttackFormation
Master Don Juan
Wrong, people fvcked more in the 20th century. The difference now and then overall is that our generations are having less sex but more partners, and they had more sex with fewer partners.dutchmaster said:
I noticed this 2 years ago after I got out of a ltr that started in 2007. There were women I thought would be easy to game because I lowered my standards. Well, I ended up getting rejected and was shocked.PeasantPlayer said:
You need to hang around girls for a few months before they start developing crushes. They are too desensitized by media to respond in the short term in most cases. That said, you should still have love at first sight with certain women. Those are the ones that lead to enjoyable long term relationships.
Desperate faggot betas and their need for female validation have made it so that even borderline ugly women get non-stop male attention. So that basically lowers the value of male attention and makes most women believe they "deserve" much better than they do.
As long as men continue to humiliate themselves and have no dignity when faced with an opportunity for poon, this will never change.
Not a sermon just a thought.
As long as men continue to humiliate themselves and have no dignity when faced with an opportunity for poon, this will never change.
Not a sermon just a thought.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Poonani Maker
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In OLD, I'm currently getting this, and at this moment, because I am sick of fatties -- that's all I've had in the past couple of months after a hot young thin lay
In OLD, I'm am currently just Fvcking with them (I know WASTING my time, but whatever), They will ask what I do for a living and I'll say something low value like OTR truck driver, and they. just. disappear. after I say something like that. It's funny as hell because she's not only FAT, or boring chunky body in her pics, but also, just Weird or also Ugly in the face. But she'll contact me and say, "Have you ever been a model? because you definitely could." I say, "I need work nude modeling on the weekend if you want to hire me" and she laughs asks more questions etc etc. But seriously, these are the kinda chicks that SHOULD be PAYING me for a date or for sex. It's insanity that they can just write me off when I throw out a low-value response like, "I'm an OTR truck driver" (I'm not, but actually have a kickass career). I mean, she thinks just because she is a (though fat/ugly) Nurse, that she's somehow better than me, smarter than I am.
But I throw out low value because, I'm trying to get rid of them without being rude, and it works, but she doesn't have the nerve to investigate Me further than my job, so FVCK HER. That just tells me all about HER, that Even Though she's fat n' ugly, she thinks she Deserves a dude with a great job (which I have) and model looks. So SAD, but let her drag down another dude not me. I want nothing to do with her, but I will TALK to these fat ones, in the event that I end up fvcking them, but I certainly would just do it to get my rocks off when I'm hungry and then try to exit stage right. I like hard fvcking and fat ones tend to like that hard doggy too.
In OLD, I'm am currently just Fvcking with them (I know WASTING my time, but whatever), They will ask what I do for a living and I'll say something low value like OTR truck driver, and they. just. disappear. after I say something like that. It's funny as hell because she's not only FAT, or boring chunky body in her pics, but also, just Weird or also Ugly in the face. But she'll contact me and say, "Have you ever been a model? because you definitely could." I say, "I need work nude modeling on the weekend if you want to hire me" and she laughs asks more questions etc etc. But seriously, these are the kinda chicks that SHOULD be PAYING me for a date or for sex. It's insanity that they can just write me off when I throw out a low-value response like, "I'm an OTR truck driver" (I'm not, but actually have a kickass career). I mean, she thinks just because she is a (though fat/ugly) Nurse, that she's somehow better than me, smarter than I am.
But I throw out low value because, I'm trying to get rid of them without being rude, and it works, but she doesn't have the nerve to investigate Me further than my job, so FVCK HER. That just tells me all about HER, that Even Though she's fat n' ugly, she thinks she Deserves a dude with a great job (which I have) and model looks. So SAD, but let her drag down another dude not me. I want nothing to do with her, but I will TALK to these fat ones, in the event that I end up fvcking them, but I certainly would just do it to get my rocks off when I'm hungry and then try to exit stage right. I like hard fvcking and fat ones tend to like that hard doggy too.
zekko
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I appreciate people's frustration, but is it really THAT difficult? if you are a high value guy you will be getting some positive responses. And if you are low value, the problem is really with you, yes?
It's hard for a lot of younger guys in the dating game because they haven't built their value yet. When you build it, they will come.
It's hard for a lot of younger guys in the dating game because they haven't built their value yet. When you build it, they will come.
When you look good, beautiful women will approach you. When you don't look good, fat women will run.
How good you look can vary greatly day to day and especially month to month. If you're getting rejected, you probably have "the layer" - when your body gets fatter than you think but you don't realize it. You must constantly diet and exercise to stay your best.
How good you look can vary greatly day to day and especially month to month. If you're getting rejected, you probably have "the layer" - when your body gets fatter than you think but you don't realize it. You must constantly diet and exercise to stay your best.