"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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when c&f goes bad

n00bPimp

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Have you ever gone so far with a C&F comment that the girl got pissed off? I'm not talking about while picking up but with girls that you had some dates with.
Last night I was talkng on IM with a girl, she's the type of person that shows off, for example she likes to talk about the guys that like her as if trying to make me jealous or something. She told me she was going to a male-friend's and that they were "going to watch a movie" at his house (She used quotes to say this). So i told her "oh yeah that reminds me, i have to buy condoms" to which she replied "i dont really care, I don't need to know that" then I replied with "yeah b/c you dont even know a condom is". she got pretty pissed off at this saying that I dont know her private life and other similar stuff along with curse words. She ended up blocking me from aol and myspace.
The point is I'm wondering if the C&F comment itself was rude enough to make her hate me or is it other parts of the relationship that could've made a rude c&F be the last straw?
Has anybody had a similar experience. Please share thanx.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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The lack of ability to express tonality and body language makes IMs a pretty bad medium to run game. Things that would normally have a girl laughing in person or on the phone can be taken seriously over IM and pissing her off.

Or maybe she's just on the rag. ;)
 

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Example from me a couple years ago, when C&F went bad over IM:

girl: You're not a player, are you?
me: I've never answered that question without getting into trouble
girl: Well I don't associate with players

d'oh...never recovered from that either, and earlier we were talking about showering together..oh well, rack it up to experience...
 

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well, noobpimp, it doesn't go right when (just like serialized said) you don't express it in the right tone and **** like that. What you can do over an AIM is always add "?!?!" when you ask her something thats C&F so that she knows you aren't really being serious, and if the girl does get mad at you for being C&F you can always say "jeez, somebody can't take a joke, how do people hang out with you?" then laugh. There is always the C&F serious approach which is basically what it sounds like. You can be C&F and be serious about what you are talking about because the bigger the lie, the more likely they are to believe it (citation is paradigm artisan, not me on that last part).
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Your problem was you did this on AIM.

Were you going to run kino tests over AIM too?

Being fun and busting her balls requires being there and being able to use 93% of body language with her (body language, voice tonality) not being on AIM.

Just move on like it was nothing. Don't go back and revisit this with her, just keep moving forward.
 

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I was going to post this as a seperate thread, but am now going to piggy on this one. I did a bit of c&f and am not sure if I overdid it or not.

So a customer comes into my store yesterday... a real cutie who I've been slowly chatting up in a distinctly non-flirty fashion for a few weeks.

She's a waitress, and starts complaining about not making enough money. Says that maybe she'll have to start stripping. I laugh and say that it can be a pretty good way to make cash *if* you're built for it (sarcastic "if") to which she laughs out loud and goes "fvck you".

Anyhow we chat for a minute or two more, I point out this movie that she's renting and ask if it was a messed up movie (about a girl who cuts herself). She says yes... and is on her way out the door (getting a bus) when she says back
"maybe I'll end up cutting myself because of it".

She's almost out the door when I reply "well, that's not going to help your stripping career" which gets another laugh... but she's practically out the door.

My question: was this working? I know I didn't get a number or anything... but do you think she was offended? It was hard to tell because maybe she was laughing defensively.

Any suggestions where to take this next time?
 

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Serialized3 said:
Example from me a couple years ago, when C&F went bad over IM:

girl: You're not a player, are you?

"do you seriously expect an answer to that?"
 
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Noob, haha, that was actually a very good and funny response!! Quick witted!

But hors don't like others implying that they are hors thus her dissatisfaction! Don't worry, there are other hors in the sea, and on land, and in the air!!!
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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realsmoothie said:
I was going to post this as a seperate thread, but am now going to piggy on this one. I did a bit of c&f and am not sure if I overdid it or not.

So a customer comes into my store yesterday... a real cutie who I've been slowly chatting up in a distinctly non-flirty fashion for a few weeks.

She's a waitress, and starts complaining about not making enough money. Says that maybe she'll have to start stripping. I laugh and say that it can be a pretty good way to make cash *if* you're built for it (sarcastic "if") to which she laughs out loud and goes "fvck you".

Anyhow we chat for a minute or two more, I point out this movie that she's renting and ask if it was a messed up movie (about a girl who cuts herself). She says yes... and is on her way out the door (getting a bus) when she says back
"maybe I'll end up cutting myself because of it".

She's almost out the door when I reply "well, that's not going to help your stripping career" which gets another laugh... but she's practically out the door.

My question: was this working? I know I didn't get a number or anything... but do you think she was offended? It was hard to tell because maybe she was laughing defensively.

Any suggestions where to take this next time?

Sounds like you did okay to me, next time get her number or email, then let the chase begin
 
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