"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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when are you supposed to tell/show her your interest?

john_1234

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david d's material advises not to tell a girl your interest in her; otherwise you'd be shooting yourself in the foot. it seems that david d's material advises to display interest through actions rather than words. mystery's material advises to throw out an IOI rather quickly: "i'm drawn to you..." while at the same time displaying interest through actions as well.
what works well for you guys out there?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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If you're familiar with Mystery method, of course, you know that you aren't supposed to display any IOI's until after much of neutralizing the rest of a group.

My personal opinion...I think you should never directly tell a girl that you have interest in her, but instead play with the cat-string theory. Tease her about it and dodge the subject, if she goes for the bait, then get some kino and phase-shift. Anyway, its okay to display an IOI, but just be careful that you aren't looking like an AFC who's just seeking approval.

-Damian
 

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somehow "actions speak louder than words" always appear to apply everywhere in life, especially the dating scene.

of course under certain circumstances do words mean more than actions sometimes...such as the "i love you", where the other person needs to hear it to feel at peace.

But David D is right on this one. As my experiences has taught me that actions do speak louder than words.

BTW what does IOI mean? i've been here all this time but i know it has something to do either with IL or EC.
 

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Once you are on a level where you have tight game... and I mean TIGHT, you can roll up on a girl and make it very clear what you want. See GWM or Juggler Method.

DYD stuff is guidelines for chumps to be more successful. You CAN grow out of it as your success increases. (I think).
 

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A woman knows you are interested in her when you are with her - you don't need to tell her.

Its what you do that matters not what you say.

Remember women act the same way - they rarely say what they mean - they just blurt out emotions like some bad shakespeare play. So they assume men are the same way.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Originally posted by john_1234
david d's material advises not to tell a girl your interest in her; otherwise you'd be shooting yourself in the foot. it seems that david d's material advises to display interest through actions rather than words. mystery's material advises to throw out an IOI rather quickly: "i'm drawn to you..." while at the same time displaying interest through actions as well.
what works well for you guys out there?


dude, girls are intuitive and "know" when you are interested,
you don't even have to say a word.
personally i hover above in the gray area of friends/sex
with EVERY woman,even the girls i am interested in
and i NEVER really say what i feel about them anymore
(except for when it's once a year & it's her birthday or
something then maybe of course)

they're right..telling a girl you like her is only an attempt to
gain her approval and settle your nerves down because
you afraid of losing her. unless she's a complete dumb bell...
she knows that you are into her..trust me.
and she knows when something is on your mind,
and she knows when something is "not right",
they know alot actually and you don't even have to say a word.
 
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