"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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When Are Hot 20 Something Year Old Off Limits?

John_Taylor

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In your opinion...after turning 30, 40, 50...never....or do older men usually want older women because they are more mature and have more in common with them?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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speakeasy

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Depends. I'm 33 and I feel that 23 is already too young, but 28 would not be a problem. The thing is, the older you get, the less age difference matters. A 65 year old with a 75 year old can perfectly relate, but a 29 year old an a 19 year old, nope.

Now that's if you're talking about a serious relationship. If you're only talking about sex, then I'll bang anything legal no matter how old I was. If it was legal to do a 16 year old girl and I was 80, I'd do her.
 
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It's weird, I'm 25 and already feel like 18-19 is unbangable. Even the 18 and 19 year olds with mature bodies look young and just make me feel old. So I guess it depends on how old the girl looks for sex (assuming she's of legal age) and for dating I want someone in the 22-32 range.
 

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I'm about to turn 30 (4 months) and I remember something that happened when I was 28: dancing with a guy's girlfriend who couldn't have been more than 19 years old. Maybe 20 tops.

Regardless, the huge age difference makes her youth features that much more enticing. I would imagine as I grew older an 18 year old would become even more appealing even only from a novelty factor (not factoring in the other reasons).

When are hot 20 somethings off limit? When you can no longer attract them with your game, you should recognize your strengths. But as a general rule, I don't see why there should be a cut-off.
 

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well, when there's a large age gap the 2 people are usually in different times in their lives and may have problem relating to each other, so in that case it depends on the 2 ppl. If it's just for a lay it's simpler, I'd say if your under 40 then 20 year olds are fair game. Any older than that and it's REALLY weird.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Evzone

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The answer to this question depends a lot on whether you are looking for a one night stand or a long term relationship.
 

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They're never off limits.

Societal shaming tries to enforce limits on people via peer pressure but the winners in life always ignore that societal shaming garbage.

So the only real rule you need to pay attention to is any girl that is of legal age you may knock it out with or have a relationship with.

I don't care if you are 70, 90 or 100 years old if you can pull a hot 18 or 20 year old piece of tail at an advanced age then more power to you.

Wear your societal "dirty old man" shaming phrase with pride or better yet ignore it completely and let the lifeless societal drone losers do all the caring about what they think you are while you do all your caring about blowing your load on some firm delicious 20 year old t!ts. :up:
 

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the hot 20 somethings are off limits when you fear them jumping your bones and breaking your hip. Until then, have fun
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Paintballguy

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Its only off limits when I can't get my d*ck hard... But then I'll just get some viagra.
 

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Paintballguy said:
Its only off limits when I can't get my d*ck hard... But then I'll just get some viagra.
says the 23 yr old lol
 

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You seem insecure to be asking a question like this.

They're never off limits!
 

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I'm born and raised in the UK, where the legal age of consent is 16. When the chance comes up in the pub (amazing how many get in with an older siblings ID or an outright fake), I still tap it. Never let anyone shame you out of having fun. They don't talk, they laugh, they have no baggage (except the ones who have been on Jeremy Kyle).
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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scrouds

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Cabal,

I don't know how it is in the UK, but a lifetime of knocking on your neighbors' doors and saying, "Hi, I'm the new local child predator" is not my idea of how to live life, no matter how hot and ready that underage piece of ass was.
 
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Why in my good old country India you never see old men clicking with the chicks? I don't know if you guys are telling the truth or wishing it were so that old men bang young chicks.
 
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