"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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When a guy tries to pay for a woman's meal in a group

ThisNThat

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I have to say, the most cringe-worthy thing I've seen is when men try to pay for a woman's meal, when they are out in a group a friends, and not a date.

Ever witnessed this? Talk about the most awkward thing for a woman to deal with, right? They do absolutely refuse though.

I'm like "Dude, just get her number and ask her out to dinner."
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Who Dares Win

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I would be seriously afraid to hire a guy that thinks like that in my company.
 

bigneil

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You've seen this more than once?? It seems unheard of. It's obviously a terrible form of supplication combined with poor taste regarding colleagues. Even if she liked him that would blow it in two ways.

Regarding being generous, the position you want to be in as a man is the girl is propositioning you, and you are playing hardball.

Example:
Her: "I miss you".
You (don't write back).
Her: "Did I say something wrong?"
You "Of course not".
Her: "I want to see you".
You: "Enough to braid your hair?"
Her: "Ok! (hearts)".

This way you get the maximum possible interest level from her because she has to work for it.

This requires that she is pursuing you. Oh, that. This is the exact opposite of what some members feel men with money do. I've never asked a girl if I could pay for sex in my life. It would be the weakest possible position.

If a girl at work liked you she would email you privately and tell you her cell phone.
 

BetterCallSaul

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I have never heard of something like this. It reeks of desperation.
 

AlphaNate

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I've witnessed a guy pay for every girl at the table. No joke.

He's also probably worse with women than any guy I know.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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mrgoodstuff

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I've witnessed a guy pay for every girl at the table. No joke.

He's also probably worse with women than any guy I know.
Yeah, that's retarded. I know what he was thinking though. He was thinking he was being a gentleman. Without considering how the females look at it. They are free-riders and will take free lunch and dinner all day long.
 

El Payaso

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You've seen this more than once?? It seems unheard of. It's obviously a terrible form of supplication combined with poor taste regarding colleagues. Even if she liked him that would blow it in two ways.

Regarding being generous, the position you want to be in as a man is the girl is propositioning you, and you are playing hardball.

Example:
Her: "I miss you".
You (don't write back).
Her: "Did I say something wrong?"
You "Of course not".
Her: "I want to see you".
You: "Enough to braid your hair?"
Her: "Ok! (hearts)".

This way you get the maximum possible interest level from her because she has to work for it.

This requires that she is pursuing you. Oh, that. This is the exact opposite of what some members feel men with money do. I've never asked a girl if I could pay for sex in my life. It would be the weakest possible position.

If a girl at work liked you she would email you privately and tell you her cell phone.
I'm shocked you're not in support of paying for her meal.
 

Who Dares Win

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Why's that?
He is basically doing something against common sense which is morally wrong, ineffective, makes a fool of himself and gives a bad idea to someone.

Imagine the same approach used to solve a professional problem or how easily such person could be manipulated and taken advantage of...all of this while he himself defends the offender.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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