"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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when a girl goes around (meaning no) when asked out, is it really a 'no'?

the_wanderer

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as the title? I've always wondered about this, from a MALES perspective.

I find that when I ask out and I get this BS (I'm busy, let you know soon, I'm lesbian etc etc), I walk away quick.

What if the girl is playing hard to get? Do we pursue this?

I would rather ask for experience than fact or proof because reading body language signs is not very exact and offers heaps of leeway.

A case in point would be one of my exes. I actually pursued her, she was giving mixed signals, but I got her. However she made it really hard.

Guys?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Gangster Of Love

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I swear, why does every new post look like a trolling call? If you are serious, then use a lot of common sense.

If you had to sell something, would you like to cold call people on the yellow pages, bug them until you change their mind, or would you focus on people who call YOU, and are showing signs of interest?

There will be some, from the cold calling prospects, who might end up buying, but why bother?

If she says no, I'm a lesbian, etc. she is not interested. She is giving you a chance to escape with your dignity in tact.
 

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the_wanderer said:
as the title? I've always wondered about this, from a MALES perspective.

I find that when I ask out and I get this BS (I'm busy, let you know soon, I'm lesbian etc etc), I walk away quick.

What if the girl is playing hard to get? Do we pursue this?

I would rather ask for experience than fact or proof because reading body language signs is not very exact and offers heaps of leeway.

A case in point would be one of my exes. I actually pursued her, she was giving mixed signals, but I got her. However she made it really hard.

Guys?
No. You let it go
 

the_wanderer

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Gangster Of Love said:
I swear, why does every new post look like a trolling call? If you are serious, then use a lot of common sense.

If you had to sell something, would you like to cold call people on the yellow pages, bug them until you change their mind, or would you focus on people who call YOU, and are showing signs of interest?

There will be some, from the cold calling prospects, who might end up buying, but why bother?

If she says no, I'm a lesbian, etc. she is not interested. She is giving you a chance to escape with your dignity in tact.
mate I was being serious. I understand your a veteran but don't call me out as a troll. Cold calling people is different from relationships.

I'm surprised you've never heard of confident persistence.
 
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