"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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When a girl gives you a bunch of little things to hold on to or keep.

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What is the reason behind this?

This girl ive been chilling with gives me a bunch of little things that belong to her....sunglasses, a button, a necklace, her hoodie. I meet her online....is this a good or bad thing? When I gave her hoodie back she told me later in the night online that she kinda wanted me to still have her hoodie....


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“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Sounds like she's into ya.

Not much to decipher lol.

Good job.
 

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Id also like to mention that she says stuff like "My cousin suzy wanted to see you, she saw your myspace and said your hot"

I called her out on it and said, so what your really saying is "pvf94 your hot."

she laughed and disagreed, haha. I smell the truth. She wants my bod. :)
 

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pvf94 said:
What is the reason behind this?

This girl ive been chilling with gives me a bunch of little things that belong to her....sunglasses, a button, a necklace, her hoodie. I meet her online....is this a good or bad thing? When I gave her hoodie back she told me later in the night online that she kinda wanted me to still have her hoodie....


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*cough* sh1ttest *cough*
 

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Need more info.

But the way I understand it, she randomly asked you to look after her stuff, and you agreed without question?

Whether it was a deliberate sh1t test or not, that's not suave dude.

My rule of thumb here -- Before you get sufficient IOIs, I'd suggest you ask yourself one thing before you do her any favours: "Would I do this for a random person on the street?"

Btw, i'm not saying she isn't into you.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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When she gave her your stuff you should have shot a ****y+funny comment at her. I don't really feel it was a "**** test" but you had an amazing opportunity to use a line such as the one I just thought of below:

"Oh, I see what you are doing. You want me to keep your stuff so you have a reason to meet me later, eh? I am onto your little game missy, don't think I am that easy!"

Cheers. ;)
 

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I can see how it'd be a **** test. She could be seeing if you will react eagerly like the boring rest. She could be doing it to see so she'll be able to easily accept things (offers) from other men.. it goes on and on.. She could be marking territory.
 

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I can see how it'd be a **** test. She could be seeing if you will react eagerly like the boring rest. She could asking be marking territory. Or maybe she's a giving person.
 

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I can see how it'd be a **** test. She could be seeing if you will react eagerly like the boring rest. She could be marking territory. Or maybe she's a giving person.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I can see how it'd be a **** test. She could be seeing if you will react eagerly like the boring rest. She could be marking territory. Or maybe she's a giving person.
 

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She didn't give me the stuff to keep an eye on. I took a bus home the one night and she said she wanted me to have the hoody because she didnt want me to get cold.

The other little things are just stuff or me to keep, nothing she wanted back.


Ummmm def have a bunch of IOI's I mean.....she does hangout with me 1 on 1 and the kino we share is ridiculous. I dunno.... haha :)
 

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pvf94 said:
What is the reason behind this?

This girl ive been chilling with gives me a bunch of little things that belong to her....sunglasses, a button, a necklace, her hoodie. I meet her online....is this a good or bad thing? When I gave her hoodie back she told me later in the night online that she kinda wanted me to still have her hoodie....


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Doesn't always mean anything.

My ex girlfriend still gives me her keys and water bottles to hold. She's still interested.

A woman I used to have a crush on gave me her cell phone (I thought it was a good sign), but she was less than interested, and less than hoonorable about how she handled things later on.

And when I was younger, I stupidly got sucked into watching purses for some women "friends."

It's never a good indicator of much either way, other than the idea that they sort of trust you not to steal their stuff or eat their lipstick.
 

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Mental said:
Doesn't always mean anything.

My ex girlfriend still gives me her keys and water bottles to hold. She's still interested.

A woman I used to have a crush on gave me her cell phone (I thought it was a good sign), but she was less than interested, and less than hoonorable about how she handled things later on.

And when I was younger, I stupidly got sucked into watching purses for some women "friends."

It's never a good indicator of much either way, other than the idea that they sort of trust you not to steal their stuff or eat their lipstick.
I eat lipstick.

:(
 

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I find that those items build good proof with new girlfriends. If they are wandering around your place and they find a pair of ear rings, some underwear, a letter, a drawing, (presumably from all different girls) then she knows you have other options, without you having to say or do anything uncouth.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Huh? Am I missing something? I never picked up the sh1t test in that?
Under what circumstances is a woman incapable of carrying a pair of sunglasses, a button or a necklace. If they were going to be such a hassel, she probably would have left them at home. Did she keep her cell?

I was out with a woman last week who held out her purse to me so she could try on a jacket in a store. I looked at the bag, looked at her and then raised an eyebrow (while not saying a word). She say "Oh, I was just seeing how far I could go..." I just said "Uh-huh" while she put her purse down on the ground.

Women have a habit of giving guys tests of his masculinity; not whether or not he is a man, rather how much of a man he is. It's pretty much the deciding factor for her to understand whether he's a "good guy" or a "nice guy."
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Under what circumstances is a woman incapable of carrying a pair of sunglasses, a button or a necklace. If they were going to be such a hassel, she probably would have left them at home. Did she keep her cell?

I was out with a woman last week who held out her purse to me so she could try on a jacket in a store. I looked at the bag, looked at her and then raised an eyebrow (while not saying a word). She say "Oh, I was just seeing how far I could go..." I just said "Uh-huh" while she put her purse down on the ground.

Women have a habit of giving guys tests of his masculinity; not whether or not he is a man, rather how much of a man he is. It's pretty much the deciding factor for her to understand whether he's a "good guy" or a "nice guy."
Exactly. But, is she giving him her items to keep or just to hold like a little slave...?
 

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I.A.F.Y.B. said:
Exactly. But, is she giving him her items to keep or just to hold like a little slave...?

TO KEEP. Glasses, button, keychain, necklace......

The hoody was because it was cold out and I had a tshirt on and a long bus ride home. She just wanted it back next time we meet. When I did give it back, she said later on in the night on msn "I kinda wish you had my hoody still".
 

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Dude I have no idea....hahaha, thats why I am asking.


I think she want's me to have things that remind me of her, we traded key clips the other day when we were hanging out.


o.0 Im hangin with her tomm, gotta work a kiss in.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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