"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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When a girl answers a phone around you?

pkrx209

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What do you guys do when a girl answers her phone around you and its her friend.. Obviously she isn't interested but if she actually was interested and pulled this move.. what do you do?

I feel so awkward sitting there while she is discussing her gossip with her friend for about 5 minutes so I just pull out my blackberry and pretend i'm doing something... Seriously what the hell?

How do you guys handle this situation?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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5 minutes is hardly worth worrying about, surely you can occupy yourself for that time, have a smoke, poke her, stick your tongue in her other ear, do a nudie run past her etc.

Depending on my mood my personal rule is 10 to 15 minutes after that I walk. I havent had to exercise it yet though but the 2nd last chick I was with almost blew it that way.
 

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Originally posted by JC Jerkson
Don't be mean about it though. Just simply say that you forgot you have things to do and that you'll call her. Then leave.


JC
Question: she calls you later and asks you why you left? (even when you tell her you had stuff to do?)

Should I answer with somethin like: I don't have time for you to sit on your phone while we could be hanging out? Or some bull**** like that?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Originally posted by dementia
No. What business is it of hers? You just say you had stuff to do and she wasnt respecting your time by talking on the fone and leaving you there without telling you whats up.

She might b*tch about it "only being 5 minutes".. So yea the 10-15 min rule sounds good. But depends where you are.

If you just walk out you come accross as a weirdo. So just say youre leaving. If she doesnt care, thats a sure sign she really DOESNT CARE.
That sounds about right, and I liked "
( . )( . )"'s suggestions too.
 

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pkrx20... 99% of what these guys are suggesting here comes from the perspective of..."I value my time, have standards, and I don't tolerate disrespect" and it's a very REAL perspective, it's not a technique or something it's a principle belief

It sounds like you have this, but you're not acting on it. You said it yourself!

I just pull out my blackberry and pretend i'm doing something... Seriously what the hell?
You didn't like it, it wasn't acceptable to you, you have social standards and want to be trated a certain way... so communicate that... don't shrug it off. All the advice here is solid, but just like JC said don't flip or be mean.

I mean, personally...
She's on the phone... walk out of the room and watch her tv and eat her food... that's kinda my style.

If I left and she called me later I'd say I didn't go over her house to listen to her talking on the phone, I have a lot of things to get done, but if she wants to meet up later we can.
 

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I'd leave. I'd tell her I've got something to do and leave. No need to sit there and watch her talk to her friends about whatever.

Either that or I'd do something similar to what Qmanchoo said.
 

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5 mins is way too long chat when with a date.

WHAT is acceptable if either me or her answer our phones and talk at most under a minute , average 30 secs. We respect each other, so we keep it to a minimum.
 

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If you are just dating, she shouldn't be picking up the phone period. Like others said, walk away.

If you are in LTR and she does this, start moaning and groaning loudly "Ohhhh yeahhh (her name) It feeeels sooo good inside youuuu myyyyyy gawed!!! I love that ass of yours, I am going to smack it!! (make a smacking sound with your two hands) lol.

I almost guarantee you she will tell her friend "let me call you back" and hang up. She will probably will learn her lesson and not talk to anyone on the cellphone around you ever again!

DjDamage
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Unless she is supposed to be doing something with me , I don't really care.
 

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If you both are just hanging out e.g. just see each other in a hallway and start having a convo, then no, it's not a big deal. I mean, you can't really control the person :rolleyes: and besides, girls find it a turn off if your insecure about who they are talking to.
 

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The first time this happens with me, I'll immediately pull out my phone and pretend talking on it. Anyone seen the movie 'Freddy got Fingered'? I'll say, LOUDLY, "No Bob, I said Geneva, not Helsinki!! Sell 2000 shares immediately!! You idiot!! You're freakin fired Bob!! Clean out your locker at the club!! I said Geneva not Helsinki!!" This usually gets her to hang up, or at least laugh. Similarly, saying something along the lines of "Baby, come back to bed..." works also.
 

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I had a habit, that everytime my GF was on the phone and I was around, I would make her give me a back massage while talking on the phone. Everyone wins.. she can stay on the phone all night for all I care.

One time I pulled my **** out and put it in her mouth (seriously) while she was on the phone, and she was crying laughing.

However it it's a girl I am not dating, it just depends. Like if she gets a call and it's Mom or something like that, I mean, what can you do?

But girl gossip and other men can wait. Anything longer than 2-3 minutes, unless it's something pretty serious, I'm out, or if she is at my house, she's out.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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