"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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joekerr31

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Gents,

could use your collective take on a situation. i think i've got the situation figured out but wanted your input.

so there's this woman (early 30s, im early 30s as well), never married, no kids, professional. i see her now and then through professional functions.

anyway, good vibe between us originally. a while ago i figure all the signs were there (and growing) so i asked her out. turns out she has a bf.

no biggy, nothing ventured nothing gained. figured at the time maybe i was reading to much into things or whatever, so just moved on.

next time i see her she's even more friendly with me. telling me all kinds of personal stuff about her past and stuff about her personal thoughts and feelings on things. also heeping compliments on to me (how i look, how smart i am, how funny i am). all this despite the fact that im no longer flirting with her (not my style to flirt with another guys woman).

so long story short, my analysis of this is that shes a crazy chic who probably doesnt know if she wants to be with her bf and likes getting attention from another guy. so she's flirting and pursing a closer bond with me to get to know me better (probably to assess whether she really wants to jump ship)

my conclusion is that she's dangerous (very narcissistic mode of thinking going on, on her part, i think), and regardless of developments in the future, i think i should cut this chic off from potential women to date list.

what do you guys think? am i assessing this right or going over board?

if you have a bf, and some dude asks you out, isn't the right thing to do to pull back on the development of a personal connection with the suitor, rather than start pursing an even greater bond with them?

anyway, what's your take on a woman behaving in this manner. I'm turning my back on this one moving forward, but interested in other opinions.

Thanks,
J
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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She probably likes you but has a BF so she is just getting to know you in case she is single again. If she is all touchy feely and asking you out well thats a different story - sounds like she is just flirty.

Its pretty hard to know if she is psycho at this point. There wasn't anything narcissistic about what you described. I find professionals that are mental cases have pretty good guards up since they deal with people all day so the ghosts don't come out of the machine 'till the clothes come off.
 

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Originally posted by joekerr31
Gents,

my conclusion is that she's dangerous (very narcissistic mode of thinking going on, on her part, i think), and regardless of developments in the future, i think i should cut this chic off from potential women to date list.

what do you guys think? am i assessing this right or going over board?

if you have a bf, and some dude asks you out, isn't the right thing to do to pull back on the development of a personal connection with the suitor, rather than start pursing an even greater bond with them?

anyway, what's your take on a woman behaving in this manner. I'm turning my back on this one moving forward, but interested in other opinions.
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Many women have "boyfriends" because it's conveient for them to have them. Their definitions vary so widely. It can mean imaginary man, friend only, friend with benefits or pathetic AFC loser. Most are looking to "upgrade", given the right opportunity. Don't ever let this stop you from gaming a chick because it's ultimately her decision to make. Always go with your intuition. In this case, since you think you should cut her, then do it.
 

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I don't think she's dangerous.

A lot of women play "leap frog" as they jump from one opportunity to another. Maybe she's marking you to be her next bf if the one she has now doesn't work.

Keep her interested in her but slip out that it's too bad she has a bf. Then look for women who are single.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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one thing is for sure, she LIKES u. if she's playing games or whatever, isn't something that should be going about in your brain. does she want to jump ship? why does she have bf? all these question are not productive, cus it just gonna confuse your ass.

heres the questions you should be asking:

do you want to sleep with her? if yes, then it can happen, why cus she likes u and that means you can get her naked and bang her senseless.

do you really care if she has boyfriend? do you concider him a barrier? doesn't matter if she has a bf, u can take her, i've done it before countless times. is he a barrier ? No , u just think he is, or u think its her barrier and thats why she doesn't jump ship.

you've given reasons for not wanting to do anything with her. they are called excuses. don't be full of them man. u want her, go get her. and i know u do, you already made an attempt at it and she flashed u "i have a bf card" and u RAN. and ran here and asked our opinion.

deep inside, u still want to bang her , cus u still talking to/about her. if she ment nothing to u, we'd never hear of her. is she hot? if soo, why are you getting rid of her, while there is a good chance for even a one night stand.
 

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she's going where her IL takes her.....keep after her, my humble opinion of course
 

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I second "plan b".

married women do this with me. then they start saying how they really ought to get divorced, what do i think, LOL.

so you can have this one but prolly only as LTR when she feels safe enough to switch. see the "monkey vine theory"
 

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ya, definitely plan b.

i got no respect for chics who look to line something up while they are still with a guy.

so my interest level in her has dropped to nothing.

its funny how one day you can be so into a chic, then she you start to see whats under the surface and you lose all interest.

J
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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