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Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

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What's your take on leaving voicemails?

Satin

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What's everyone's general rule on what to do when you call a girl after getting her number or after the first date and she doesnt answer?

Do you leave a message? No message and call back later? Text her instead?

I generally try not to leave voice messages for girls in the early stages, but I also don't want to seem like I'm calling her over and over.

satin
 

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PDubb75

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I do not. Even when I'm completely comfortable with the person I leave a voicemail for (good friend, family member) I still feel it sometimes comes off awkward. You are basically having a conversation with yourself. It's just odd.

If they don't answer, I hang up. I'll try to call the next day or something, and if they don't answer then, I'll send a text.
 

thevilittletroll

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voicemails are tricky but i have found a couple of rules i like to use

Donts:
#1 never state your name, she should know who you are and have your number already in her phone
#2 never ask her out on a voice mail or text message
#3 never say something like, just calling to see what you're doing. that can be interperated as, i'm bored, with nothing to do cause i have no life, and you are my last resort, and no other options.
#4 never give her the assumption that it is necessary that she calls you back. it makes you sound needy and desperate. dont say call me back when you get a chance.

Do's
#1 Keep all messages short and to the point.
#2 tell her something exciting you are doing right now, you thought she should know. this one includes texting.
#3 tell her you will call her later or talk to you later, instead of she must call you back.
#4 instead of stating your name say, its me.

these tips are to maintain you as high value. i also like to use baiting techniques to get her to call me or text me back. one of my fav lines is this, can be used as a voicemail or a text.

text: "omg the craziest thing just happened!" on vm, just add, hey its me & i call you later to tell you all about it.

my 2nd fav is "omg i just saw your twin!"

by the way just have a couple of made up cool stories to tell when she does actually call back, insert DHV's.
 

pdx1138

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I never leave voicemails unless I've been seeing the girl for months.
 

Blackmm

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I leave one voicemail and pretty much leave it up to her to get back at me. If she never calls back, cop and blow.
 

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