"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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What's your motive?

PDubb75

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Alright guys, I am new here, but I've spent a good amount of time reading the articles and the forum the last few days. Aside from having a lot to learn, I have one specific question for everyone here.

What are you aiming for with these women?

More specifically, are you guys using these tips and pieces of advice to nail as many girls as you can? Or are you trying to find someone for a relationship. It seems to me that the far majority of topics here stem from guys trying to meet random girls for sex. Which, I'm not exactly saying I'm against haha

For anyone looking for relationships, that really brings me to my main question. If you are using these methods to find someone to have a relationship with, how do you continue with these actions throughout a relationship? Or maybe the better question is, how to transition into a relationship? So many of these tips involve not opening up much, limiting contact, not showing too much emotion, etc. How do you eventually start doing that without "changing" from what she fell for?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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RedZone

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In my opinion, if you want a relationship it has to be centered around a mutual respect for each other. Far too often, you hear stories about how nobody trusts anybody and that's not what a relationship should be about.

Also, I feel that if you get into a relationship you shouldn't change who you are. Seen a lot of friends first hand just lose contact with everybody after they started seeing a girl. Most likely this happens because they think they will lose the girl if they don't spend time with them. You just have to remember that saying no once in awhile isn't going to ruin anything.
 

JLW

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The idea for me is basically that I want to be able to have a very large selection of girls so I can get the best choice for a relationship-worthy girl who will keep me company in my old(er) age.
 

powpow

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just to be comfortable with women and let the pieces fall where they may...


nahhh Im just joking. its to get some poonanny and eventually marry one of these sluts.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Packers2010

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just to self improve myself. thats why i am here. i used to be terrible with girls. now i am ok. better but still not where i want to be.
 

Jariel

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Personally, I just enjoy each experience for what it is. I've been on some dates and got no more than a kiss and a cuddle, but had an amazing day/eve with great company and an enjoyable experience. Sometimes a date has simply boosted my ego or made me feel good; other times I've not felt the sexual chemistry, yet I've enjoyed their company and going out with someone cool. Other times, it has been wild and passionate, all about the sex. Then there are those girls I've really fallen for, had relationships with and many great experiences.

At one time I used to go on dates and feel like it had to lead somewhere. I would focus on saying the right thing, using techniques, escalating, judging her body language etc etc, but I always hated those dates. I put so much pressure on myself, was thinking way too hard and it was just a lot of work. Plus, if it didn't go anywhere I'd always end up annoyed or disappointed.

Nowadays, I go out with the intention of enjoying myself and nothing more. If I see a chance to escalate to sex or we click as relationship material I'll pursue it, but if not, or if I get rejected, I like to walk away feeling like it was a valuable or enjoyable experience rather than beating myself up thinking "I shoulda said this" or "I failed to do xyz at the right time" and so on.
 

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