"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Whats Your Attitude Towards Women?

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Having had some bad experiances with women in the past I sometimes view them with a negative attitude (not all of them but women in general). Looking through these sort of forums it seems I'm not alone in the way I view women. There is alot of people with bad experiances with women.

So how do DJ's view women? Whats the right attitude to take?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Answers said:
Having had some bad experiances with women in the past I sometimes view them with a negative attitude (not all of them but women in general). Looking through these sort of forums it seems I'm not alone in the way I view women. There is alot of people with bad experiances with women.

So how do DJ's view women? Whats the right attitude to take?
It's normal in this society to have a negative attitude towards women. Due to the way society is you are effectively second class compared to women. Less rights, much less attention from the opposite sex, less social prospects, harder to have sex/relationships, degraded by the media, etc.

The way I look at it is this - The only dislikes I ever have towards women are as a result of social conditioning. They are empowered and made to be high value above men in society. But deep down, once/if you can cut through this BS, there's often a great person inside. From experience, I've had a lot of good interactions with women and get on better with women than men.

A lot of the reasons why things are as they are is due to men. If men stopped drooling over women as if they're goddesses, buying them drinks and validating them all the time, providing endlessly for them, letting women dominate them, etc.

In the end, things are as they are and women didn't decide it from birth. It's been imposed on them and they live how they're conditioned to.
 

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Treat each one differently as an individual without imparting judgement on any that you don't know and you'll have a better chance of not having a overall negative attitude towards them. Doing otherwise is like giving men generic categories like "nice guys" and "bad boys" without recognizing the variances in between.
 

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Having had some bad experiances with women in the past I sometimes view them with a negative attitude (not all of them but women in general). Looking through these sort of forums it seems I'm not alone in the way I view women. There is alot of people with bad experiances with women.
You are definitely NOT alone.

And when tons of different, random sources are all experiencing the SAME THING...there is obviously SOMETHING TO IT! Seriously, this stuff is NOT in your head! It is VERY real indeed!
 

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Women are meant to be loved, and not understood.

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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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As odd as it seems, I kind of believe that women (more like girls 18-30) aren't human. It's most likely because of my very limited exposure to them and that I only interact with them a couple of hours a day a few days a week. For all I'm concerned they could be fairies, that only magically appear at school and on the internet :p
 

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Mad Manic said:
A lot of the reasons why things are as they are is due to men. If men stopped drooling over women as if they're goddesses, buying them drinks and validating them all the time, providing endlessly for them, letting women dominate them, etc.


This will never happen since sleeping with a girl is the hardest thing to achieve in the world. What a women has between her legs is what men would literally kill for and that's what they do what they do.

It's not like we can go to 7-11 and say "One slurpee and one hot 20 year old girl please" LOL
 

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This will never happen since sleeping with a girl is the hardest thing to achieve in the world. What a women has between her legs is what men would literally kill for and that's what they do what they do.

It's not like we can go to 7-11 and say "One slurpee and one hot 20 year old girl please" LOL
It's a catch 22 mate. If I approach no women I'm doing my part to not validate them, thus help bring them down from their pedestal, decrease their value hence more dateable. By doing this I get no women. If I game the ass off lots this makes them more picky as they're being validated more and their value rises. But at least I get some tail whilst I increase their collective power in society.

Imagine when we're 80 sitting in our rocking chair, and we have a grandson aged 21 telling us "Yes clubbing was great last night, had loads of attractive girls hitting on me as per usual, they're just so horny ehh!". I'd be like noooooo why was I a youth in the era when getting tail was hard!
 

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I don't have a problem with women at all. I learned about a method that helps me to immediately spot the women that are good for me and the ones that are bad for me just by having a brief conversation with them.
 

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My attitude varies with each woman.

Mostly get along very well, but there are exceptions.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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ChrizZ said:
I don't have a problem with women at all. I learned about a method that helps me to immediately spot the women that are good for me and the ones that are bad for me just by having a brief conversation with them.
You are EIGHTEEN. Life may not have even shown you the preface to the first lesson... tread carefully.
 

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I honestly think females are dumb. Not unintellegent book wise, but dumb in ways dealing with life. I love women, but I think they are dumb and think irrationally.
 

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Whats my attitude towards girls?

Hmm, I just see them as a sourse of fun, something to fvck and have a laugh with.
 

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Most of them are too emotional. I'm not really like that. They think with their hearts and emotions too much, I think with my mind. I am rather cynical when it comes to relationships lately. I've found some girls I've clicked with, maybe it's the luck of the draw, but none of them have done it for me. Either their interest isn't high enough, or it's way too high to the point where I have complete control over their happiness and emotions. None right in the middle.

I used to 'like' girls back in the day. I don't like girls anymore. In order for them to get me to like them, then eventually fall in love with them, they better be really damn special. I've been getting pickier and pickier the more options I have, and a girl that would've been the catch of a lifetime for me before has turned into one I wouldn't even look twice at. I'm on the other side of the picture now.
 

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The ones who have negative attitudes towards chicks are just mad because there not having sex with those specific women lol.

Yes chicks are emotional, yes when you realize female psyche you realize they can be irrational, but at the end of the day there all just out to have fun and if your not willing to have fun then yes your going to have some hatred towards women.

You'll bitvh and moan when you get flaked, you'll be pissed when you get rejected and call a chick a bitvh. But the end of the day your mad because she didn't like you.

Before I was really negative to women, but thats because I was a negative person in general. After learning this and interacting with chicks I realize how much fun it is to hang with girls, and once you understand them then you don't really sit there like "WTF?" even though sometimes you'll do that because certain sh!t is really just so fuked up that your like "WTF?"
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Love the woman and hate the hor!!
 

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ducaro said:
You are EIGHTEEN. Life may not have even shown you the preface to the first lesson... tread carefully.
Maybe it hasn't, but I believe I'm well prepared for the lessons life will throw at me.
 

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This will never happen since sleeping with a girl is the hardest thing to achieve in the world
And this is why you don't get laid. There are literally millions of things harder than sleeping with a women--even with a very attractive one.

Anyway, back to the task at hand... am I the only one here who genuinely loves women? I mean, seriously, I love women, all of them. (Well, almost all. I hate Barbara Streisand.)

As cynical as I am about human beings, and women in particular, I just love being with women, even in a non-sexual setting. Sure, a boys' night out is fun, and getting drunk with my buddies is awesome, but there's something about hanging out with a few women that's just beyond that. I'm not delusional or anything, and I know most of them are conniving female dogs, but what does that matter? I'm not dating them, I'm not in a relationship with them, I just hang out and have fun.

I treat women more or less like guys: I don't mind most of them, but if they wrong me, that's it. Same if a girl doesn't talk to me; it's her loss.

I think it's unhealthy that so many people on here have a negative attitude towards women. Not only is it very negative and demeaning ("women are all prostitutes"), it's completely opposed to what a Don Juan should be. Remember Don Juan DeMarco? Love every woman, even if her nose is too long or her hips are too wide.* Don't be a gullible little boy, and keep a healthy dose of reality in everything, but don't be bitter, cynical and push women away because your attitude towards women is too negative and you view them as toys for your enjoyment.

*By love I don't mean "have sex with," just don't be an ass to a woman just because you don't think she's hot.
 

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I tend to be a little negative concerning the "typical American woman" around my age... they seem to be ignorant and self-absorbed... Which is why a good one is so hard to find. If I actually find a hottie that can carry on an intelligent conversation about something other than her hair care products then that's a keeper in my book.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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