What's wrong with women?

[diplomatic_lies]

So many guys are on here complaining about women. Where do you live, 17th century France? Most women I've known and dated aren't that bad. I mean yeah, many are shallow (but how many of you would date a fat chick?), and some aren't that intelligent (on the other hand, many intellectual women are feminists).

Maybe you guys just attract the wrong kind of women or something.

 

[quest]

Originally posted by diplomatic_lies
So many guys are on here complaining about women. Where do you live, 17th century France? Most women I've known and dated aren't that bad. I mean yeah, many are shallow (but how many of you would date a fat chick?), and some aren't that intelligent (on the other hand, many intellectual women are feminists).

Maybe you guys just attract the wrong kind of women or something.

you're mostly right.

except, the guys complaining are the guys who AREN'T dating women.

they are the guys that hang around here, and learn what to do. but still won't do it because they are :

-too fat
-too ugly
-too poor
-too dumb
-their car isn't good enough
-they don't have a 6 pack
-every girl they meets is stuck up

or whatever lame excuse they can come up with. anything to stop them from actually approaching. in relaity, there is one thing holding these guys back

-fear.

 

[al77]

Re: Re: What's wrong with women?

Originally posted by quest
or whatever lame excuse they can come up with. anything to stop them from actually approaching. in relaity, there is one thing holding these guys back

-fear.

quest,

You point is 100% valid.
But you missed the original question I think.

diplomatic_lies admits there are plenty of shallow and dumb chicks, so the problem is not in approaching in this case.
The problem really lies in female power that devour women: it is a paradox actually.
The more power women have in a society, the more they tend to get fat and dumb. Cuz they dont have to do anything tehy already have power, so they got lazy get fat and dumb - guy would chas ethem anyway (they think).

So it is not really men problem, it is a problem of the society, women problem - they have too much power, too many career opportunities and too many uneducated afc who thinks this is a good direction.

It is simple: women have huge sex\relationship\dating education: this is basically what they do since age 5. They read magazines, talk to each other etc.
What gusy do? talk to each other about dating? or read about how not ot be an afc? no way... they watch sports and drink beer.
This is the real problem - men do not cooperate at all in educating themselves about women, moreover they are shy even to talk about it since it may appear non-masculine to discuss that stuff.

Men hide their problems - talk to your friends, most would say "Yeah.. I do ok with women... yeah..." and he probably didn't have a date in 7 years.
Women? They admit their mistake and discuss it with other women. They learn, and they talk. Men shut up and watch friggin sports.

Do you know any magazine that gives good practical non-afc advice on how to deal with women? I don't. But I heard about tons of such magazines for women...

So what guys complint about is very legit. Women today have and are gogint o have even more power cuz of a) too many career opportunities b) good education for women c) very bad education for men

Notice, women also are interested in bad education for men, they will never tell you the truth, so you can learn and improve....

quest - start a decent mens magazine, if you succeed you may save the world, at least 1/2 of it.

 

[tj]

the same thing that is wrong with men...we are all human...

 

[Jariel]

Good point. Anyone who blames other people for their failings are cop outs. They need to take some control of themselves and quit blaming the world for their problems.

 

[undesputable]

i dont have a problem with women...she might even have a couple of extra pounds and i wouldnt have a problem with her....

My main problem tho is feminist *****es....and is not just the smart ones who are feminists anymore.... its all the *****es that have been brainwashed, which i would say that would be the majority. thats why i dont have gf or plan to marry.... However even the most hardcore femenist is good to have sex with tho, so is all good.

 

[Paintballguy]

I mainly have a problem with stuck up *****es who think they are god.

 

[quest]

Re: Re: Re: What's wrong with women?

al77,

DL wasn't talking about his approaches, he's said "most women I've known and dated aren't that bad." I agree with that.

he was asking why everyone else has a problem, that was the question that i answered.

they have the problem for the reasons i listed - noteably, they don't approach.

but you do bring up some interesting points about women.

but i must say from my experiences, women do not converse about appropriate things, ie; lets go to gym and get ourselves some hot bodies. lets go to a cooking class so we can cook for our man. lets have vaccum cleaning races so we can get the house REALLY clean for when he comes home.

instead they come up with things like "you should send a text message to him saying 'hey Tony. are you still picking me up at 7.30' then sms you again saying 'sorry paul! i accidently sent you the txt, Tony is just my old friend from school'" or they might come up with "lets only eat steamed brocolli, once a day, so we can be skinny" or "lets drive past his house/work and make sure he's really where he says he is"

-i've truly heard these things from multiple girls.

As for your magazine idea. i've truly thought about it. BUT the major problem being everything that gets covered here would be finished in about 6 issues.

unless you were to really spread it out slowly.

Mens Health magazine (which i've read quite a few times) is full of great advice. but is too focused on sorting out relationship problems rather then creating a relationship without problems. the rest is good.

 

[diplomatic_lies]

Here's a solution:

Instead of complaining about women, date only "good" women.

Then when the "bad" women see no hot guys wants to date them, they will become "good".


(PS. Doesn't work if you're butt ugly)

 

[al77]

Re: Re: Re: Re: What's wrong with women?

Originally posted by quest

instead they come up with things like "you should send a text message to him saying 'hey Tony. are you still picking me up at 7.30' then sms you again saying 'sorry paul! i accidently sent you the txt, Tony is just my old friend from school'" or they might come up with "lets only eat steamed brocolli, once a day, so we can be skinny" or "lets drive past his house/work and make sure he's really where he says he is"

-i've truly heard these things from multiple girls.

As for your magazine idea. i've truly thought about it. BUT the major problem being everything that gets covered here would be finished in about 6 issues.

How did women learn that sh*t? By communication with each other - they talk and learn. Men fear if they talk, they would not be masculine anymore, i.e. they will resemble women who discuss dating\relationship...
So the real problem is with men...they do not learn, and they even do not admit they need to learn stuff about women.

The purpose of the magazine is to make this knowledge available to masses... i.e. to at least convert AFCs into RAFC.
Look at women magazines: they repaet stuff, they add stories, they explain why you should do this and that.
Look at the bookshelves: you can spot 10 books similar to "How to get the best husband in 10 days" but you will see no books for men. None!
This is the probelm - the knowledge is not available to men, an dthey can't even admit they need this knowledge.
A magazine would serve the purpose of popularization, so every guy at least will know how to deal with women.

Who doesn't know what Playboy is? Who never seen a pic from one?
Now.. "Mens Health magazine" - what kind of image it has? Whta message it send? Health?
Like if I am somehting wrong with my health only then I will start reading it? Or it is for seniors only who are concers with their health more than others?

The name is completely off... men care much more about how to get women, not about "health", they don't cover dating... it is like non-existent.

 

[quest]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What's wrong with women?

Originally posted by al77
Men fear if they talk, they would not be masculine anymore, i.e. they will resemble women who discuss dating\relationship...
So the real problem is with men...they do not learn, and they even do not admit they need to learn stuff about women.

Now.. "Mens Health magazine" - what kind of image it has? Whta message it send? Health?
Like if I am somehting wrong with my health only then I will start reading it? Or it is for seniors only who are concers with their health more than others?

if men won't talk to there best friends about dating, chances are they won't read a dating magazine? true?

mens health magazine is based around body building, but over the cover it will have subject titles which will turn up in the seduction section etc.

there is things about getting and keeping women, but they are (in my opinion) slightly off the mark. but not so far off that its an issue. take there tips and you will improve, but a different kind of improve then we learn here.

guys have to want to be helped before you can help them.

 

[No Escape]

Originally posted by diplomatic_lies
So many guys are on here complaining about women. Where do you live, 17th century France? Most women I've known and dated aren't that bad. I mean yeah, many are shallow (but how many of you would date a fat chick?), and some aren't that intelligent (on the other hand, many intellectual women are feminists).

Maybe you guys just attract the wrong kind of women or something.

I think you have a right to complain when you're not acting like an AFC, yet still have to deal with inconsiderate, rude, and game playing women. You're probably thinking "this guy doesn't know what he's talking about, he think's he's doing everything right, but just doesn't have a clue, yada yada yada". I can assure you that I NEVER act like a pushover, don't take **** from women, don't act like a "target", am humorous, good conversationalist, and good looking. I make it a point not to appear or sound weak, yet am still targeted. If I lacked any of those characteristics mentioned above, then i'd understand why this was happening. And that's the most frustrating part...when you know for a FACT that you're not acting weak, yet you're still being targeted. Call me "cursed" if you will.

I have to honestly say that in my life, i've maybe dated only a few select women who were genuine and not predators.

I've also been in the dating game for a long, long time. Since I'm 11 yrs old. I am now 25. Think i have plenty of experience to know how not to act like an AFC. And to add to that, even before i came to this site, i already knew the "tricks of the trade". They're common sense. Reason i come to this site for advice, is for reassurance. Eventhough i know what to do, i still like to get the feedback of others.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by undesputable
i dont have a problem with women...she might even have a couple of extra pounds and i wouldnt have a problem with her....

My main problem tho is feminist *****es....and is not just the smart ones who are feminists anymore.... its all the *****es that have been brainwashed, which i would say that would be the majority. thats why i dont have gf or plan to marry.... However even the most hardcore femenist is good to have sex with tho, so is all good.

The sad thing about what feminism has done to so many women is that the majority of women don't even realize what's happeneing. If I could use one sentence to describe what feminism does to women it would be "It trains women to embrace the victim mentality." And when a woman embraces victimhood they automatically blame men for victimizing them.

 

[Visceral]

Somehow I don't think that these materialistic and manipulative traits are anything fundamentally new - women have probably been this way all along; they've just never before been in a position to express and act on it to such an extent.

In the past, a man had the physical and mental edge, not to mention the legal and moral obligation, to keep his woman well in line. Today, that's no longer the case, and with the restrictions on their behavior gone, woman's true cunning has revealed itself, at our expense.

 

[DJ_in_making]

Originally posted by diplomatic_lies
Here's a solution:

Instead of complaining about women, date only "good" women.

Then when the "bad" women see no hot guys wants to date them, they will become "good".


(PS. Doesn't work if you're butt ugly)

good idea, but it'll never work.... there are as long as there are AFC's who kiss their @$$, they will remain bad.