Whats with all the cucks?

[Epicwinguy]

Maybe "cucks" is the wrong term, but I'm talking about all those guys who's only goal with the opposite sex is to marry and start a family...and anything else is so strange to them. They are baffled to hear that a guy doesn't want to marry or have kids.

With all the hookup culture in real life and being portrayed on television, these guys still don't get it. And there's so many of the guys even in city areas. Why do they cling so desperately to their marriage with kids ideal? Surely they know all the bull**** that comes with it.

 

[bigneil]

Cuckold is definitely the wrong term to describe the traditional male.

A cuckold is someone who allows his wife to have sex with other men in front of him (or well within his knowledge).

These days, kids are for millionaires.

 

[Red Legg]

I love bucking the norm....My parents are religious and always wanted me too settle down.I love the look on my dads face when he sees me with another smoking hot babe......feels good man.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

My dad always says how he wants to have lots of grandchildren so I half-joke with him about I I've been trying to have kids for his sake and if he has my approval to have kids from multiple women....needless to say, he isn't very fond of this joke very much

 

[Epicwinguy]

Cuckold is definitely the wrong term to describe the traditional male.

A cuckold is someone who allows his wife to have sex with other men in front of him (or well within his knowledge).

These days, kids are for millionaires.

I am talking about guys young as 18 or 19 thinking about marriage. There should be a term for these "traditional males" too though. "Trad" or "Trad-tard" or "Tradhold"

 

[bigneil]

I am talking about guys young as 18 or 19 thinking about marriage. There should be a term for these "traditional males" too though. "Trad" or "Trad-tard" or "Tradhold"

Indeed, everyone should publish their age here. Most people know I am 46 but the forum changed and showing your age is not that easy. I've tried. I will try again now.

 

[RangerMIke]

I wouldn't call them cucks. Heck I fell into "I'm supposed to get married" trap like an idiot. I don't know why I did it, I really don't. I really mean that I DO NOT KNOW. I suspect many guys find themselves saying the same thing. I was not really in love with my ex.... I've had a least a dozen women in my life before I met her that I had a MUCH better connection and attraction to. I guess you just get conditioned to believe that was what you should do.

 

[SmooveMooves]

A cuckold is someone who allows his wife to have sex with other men in front of him.

I hate that this word had become so popular. Now to most people it the same as calling someone a pūssy. What's the need with these men to conform to your ideals. Not everyone believes the name of the game is sleeping with as many women as possible. To some men, a family is appealing. Men like me and after I'm done running through these sluts that's what I'll do.

 

[zekko]

I love bucking the norm....My parents are religious and always wanted me too settle down.I love the look on my dads face when he sees me with another smoking hot babe......feels good man.

Fair enough, but if your parents had not embraced the idea of the traditional family, you wouldn't be here to have that smoking hot babe on your arm.

Not that I would advise any man to get married on today's society, I wouldn't. But the concept of the family is a good one, even if it's been destroyed by feminism and immorality. Take the time to be grateful to your father for the opportunities he's given you.

 

[The Duke]

There is stability in marriage. You probably trade a little adventure and happiness for stability. That's appealing to some.

It also takes a pretty mentally strong guy to survive the ups and downs of chasing women year after year. There is no stability in that venture. Lots of highs and lows. It takes a lot of effort. You deal with constant rejection. I'd say it takes more ego and confidence to be that guy. Probably a little narcissistic. Most men aren't cut out for it.

Its the same reason some chose an easy life sitting at a desk in corporate America vs. their own business venture.

 

[Skyline]

Fair enough, but if your parents had not embraced the idea of the traditional family, you wouldn't be here to have that smoking hot babe on your arm.

Not that I would advise any man to get married on today's society, I wouldn't. But the concept of the family is a good one, even if it's been destroyed by feminism and immorality. Take the time to be grateful to your father for the opportunities he's given you.

Very good comment.

 

[Epicwinguy]

I hate that this word had become so popular. Now to most people it the same as calling someone a pūssy. What's the need with these men to conform to your ideals. Not everyone believes the name of the game is sleeping with as many women as possible. To some men, a family is appealing. Men like me and after I'm done running through these sluts that's what I'll do.

Notice how these men always gotta push their way of life on every guy, and "casual" anything is so blasphemous to them. I am under no obligation to be "respectful" of them or not talk **** if I feel like.

 

[zekko]

It's the difference between a lion being in the zoo, or being in the wild.

It's not very difficult to see the not-so-subtle jabs you and howiestern have directed at those who are living a more stable life. Meh, to each his own.

I am a man who values the stability he has. Why should I not? I've worked for it my entire life. Rather than the lion in a zoo, I would prefer to picture myself as a lion who has built himself a mansion in the jungle, and who is currently enjoying the rewards of it. The position I currently enjoy, financially, romantically, and otherwise, is a result of the work I put in when I was younger. And where I am now is where I want to be, it's what I have worked for. I wasn't stuck in here by a zookeeper, I'm not in a cage, this is the house I built for myself.

 

[The Duke]

@zekko - no subtle jabs intended. Props to you for making your relationship work and living life on your terms, that's an honorable feat.

I've tried every type of relationship imaginable(marriage, ltr's, dating, plates, strippers, etc), I have no doubt which type was the toughest and which type made me a better person. If that doesn't align with your views then so be it.

I think you would be hard pressed to find an example of where I put marriage/ltr's down. In fact I've supported those concepts many times.

 

[zekko]

@zekko - no subtle jabs intended.

Perhaps I misunderstood your remark, but no offense taken regardless. I realize I'm at a different place in my life than most guys here, who are younger.

I'm just trying to say that stability isn't quite the big evil thing that PUAs make it out to be. They try to push the live on the edge, be unpredictable, don't know where your next meal is coming from lifestyle. And yes, deesade, if that's your thing, it's certainly as valid a way to live as any other, so I'm not trying to hate on that.

Something they push big time here is staying in shape. Stability is useful when staying in shape - you want to get into a workout ROUTINE where you are consistently staying on your schedule. Stability will get you results.

Even spinning plates is aimed at bringing stability to a guy's sex life. When they talk about the benefits of plate spinning, they talk about how if one girl fails you. there is another to fall back on. That's stability. Stability is not necessarily a bad thing. Consistency and stabilty can help you reach your goals, whatever they may be.

And just for the record, I've never advised anyone to get married, play the Playstation after work, and hope that the wife will give him some sex that night.

 

[zekko]

My life is my life. It's not a joint thing. And women are replaceable parts within that eco-system.

See, I completely agree with that. When I talk about stability, I'm thinking more about setting up my life in such a way as to keep it providing for my wants and needs.

Regarding marriage, I admit I got a little off topic. No way would I get married in today's culture, that's off the table. But I've been with the same girl for over a decade now, so I think I can speak a bit about LTRs.

As I've said before, the advantage of the LTR is that you get to check off the box in your life that says women, and turn and focus your mind on other things that interest you, and other goals that you are working toward. That's the advantage of the stability of the LTR.

 

[ubercat]

@zekko does she live with you?

 

[zekko]

Ubercat, yes we cohabitate, in a state with no common law marriages. I know one of the big rules here is "Don't live together!", but I think it's a nice alternative to marriage - as long as you keep your head, keep the frame, and screen well. We don't co-own anything, for example.

I will say though that through those candid discussions, I think that you are either just inclined for that, or you aren't.

I don't remember ever seeing anyone change their mind based on a logical discussion about it.

Again, I agree entirely. And I'm not trying to convince anyone to do anything, I just like to defend and explain my choices sometimes. The manosphere tends to paint guys in LTRs as beta chumps, and many are. But I don't think you are locked into that role just because you've found a good relationship.

However, I know you've said you think people criticize your choices here as well, so I guess it's a matter of perspective.