"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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What's up with this... Long- by female...

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penkitten said:
she is trying to be a good grandmother by calling since her son won't, even if that means going against his wishes or her husbands, just by calling.
she wants to be invited to see her grandchild.
she is probably on a message board somewhere else upset that she wasn't invited because her son messed it all up.
you can raise your kids the best you can, but one day they become adults and you have to let go of their hands and let them go off in the world alone. when they do, and they mess something up, you end up suffering for it.
it might not be her fault he turned out how he did, or it may very well be her fault...
i just know that it could go either way. 1. she is a great grandma who becomes a great asset and ally to you. OR 2. she pretends to be all that, and then takes the baby to his arms, and shuns you when you come to pick up the child.
you just never know how these things will turn out.

just remember that it could go either way .
This is great advice, from the resident mother of the boards.

WilMor, if you become bitter after this I wouldn't be surprised. But is that what you want?

Really once you get a little past this hurdle, you should ask yourself why YOU chose this man. The blame lies with you in that aspect.

And I haven't seen you reply to some of the better questions some posters have asked you. You should, if you want them to keep up with you and your thread, otherwise you come across as one-sided rant woman.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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