"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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What's the single worst advice you got or product you bought in regards to chicks?

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What's the single worst advice or product you bought in regards to chicks?

Mine would have to be when I was a kid. About 12 years old I was pretty into comic books and to be honest at times would get aroused at the drawings of the Super Heroines/Chick Villians. (You know you did too at that age so don't lie to me lie to Santa Claus.)

Anyway looking through the ads of the "cool" products they used to advertise, me in rare genius form sent away for those "X-ray vision" glasses thinking I could see chicks in real life naked.

I wound up getting them a few weeks later and was extremely pissed when I put them on in a mirror to try them out before using them in front of chicks and saw my shirt.

It was a learning experience I can assure you. As in: "Wtf?! Oh this is some MFing bullsh1t!!"

As for advice while growing up...Too much to mention a single piece.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Single worst thing I did was actually listening to my female friends' advice regarding dating/relationships.
 

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^ THIS

I thought I was being super slick asking girls for advice. Surely this inside info is going to take me far. Boy was I wrong.

I still have a Lady Death chrome poster up in my computer room.

First time I saw those 3D glasses I thought they really worked too. I think I was like 4-5 yrs old lol. Surely the magazine ad was not lying about those glasses right? lol!
 

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I can't name just one...

1. Send a "I had a nice time" text right after a date. Recommended by a female coworker.

2. Tell her (and the whole class) who I have a crush on. Recommended in grade 7 by a girl.

3. Use c&f non-stop on a girl, even if she has no interest or low self-esteem. Got her bf up in my face AND booted from the bar.

4. Dress in bright gay colors to peacock. The disc jockey in the club laughed at me and announced aloud over the mic that "This guy likes bananas." LOL

I'll think of more...
 

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yyc12 said:
Single worst thing I did was actually listening to my female friends' advice regarding dating/relationships.
deff. this Besides this one chick who is still my friend to this day who thinks like a dude.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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yyc12 said:
Single worst thing I did was actually listening to my female friends' advice regarding dating/relationships.

was too scared and naive to do this, but I cringe when I read this
 

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yyc12 said:
Single worst thing I did was actually listening to my female friends' advice regarding dating/relationships.
And

"Talk to her, tell her how you FEEL"

you should cut her some slack

try to be more understanding

he's her GAY FRIEND

F U C K I N G MUG listened to that SH IT for years!!!!!:cuss: :crackup:
 

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Mike32ct said:
1. Send a "I had a nice time" text right after a date. Recommended by a female coworker.
What's so bad about that? I always thought it was good idea to do that, and I usually do. It seems a bit cold to go out with a girl you're interested in and then not get back to her the next day to tell her you had a good time.

I guess it doesn't work with every girl out there, as it might seem a bit clingy, but I feel that it's a good idea to do so when dating a girl that's a bit insecure of the relationship's status.
 

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More bad advice I got from women:

If women keep rejecting you and/or flaking, contact her afterwards to ask for feedback on what you might be doing wrong. Haha.

Only men like rough sex. Women only want to make gentle love on rose petals. Be romantic at all times. Haha.

Physical size doesn't matter. Women don't date guys because they are big or tall.

She IS interested. She's just playing hard to get.

They want a guy who is a sweetheart.
 

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Luciano89 said:
What's so bad about that? I always thought it was good idea to do that, and I usually do. It seems a bit cold to go out with a girl you're interested in and then not get back to her the next day to tell her you had a good time.

I guess it doesn't work with every girl out there, as it might seem a bit clingy, but I feel that it's a good idea to do so when dating a girl that's a bit insecure of the relationship's status.
I thought it was a good idea too, but I have a 100% flake rate after trying it several times.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Anyway, I could go on and on, but here are the two WORST pieces of advice ever:

1. Looks don't matter.

2. Women are less visual than men.

Yes, money and status are valid non-looks-related wildcards. But generally, anyone who has overheard female gossip knows #1 and #2 are BS.
 

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Mike32ct said:
More bad advice I got from women:

If women keep rejecting you and/or flaking, contact her afterwards to ask for feedback on what you might be doing wrong. Haha.

Only men like rough sex. Women only want to make gentle love on rose petals. Be romantic at all times. Haha.

Physical size doesn't matter. Women don't date guys because they are big or tall.

She IS interested. She's just playing hard to get.

They want a guy who is a sweetheart.
YES!!! all of these! never met a women that didn't like rough sex,:cool: ; i think "gentle" sex is seen as somehow less assertive and less attractive as a result.

Also, LOL @ the feedback thing...as if a woman will be honest in telling you, :crackup: . Bottom line she wasn't interested and there's nothing wrong with that.
 

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Purefilth said:
And

"Talk to her, tell her how you FEEL"

you should cut her some slack

try to be more understanding

he's her GAY FRIEND

F U C K I N G MUG listened to that SH IT for years!!!!!:cuss: :crackup:
My new thing is to get their advice and do the OPPOSITE!

Telling them how you feel is the WORST thing I ever did...luckily I made it back and was still able to have lots of sex never again will I talk about feelings.
 

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I took advice from this corny guy when I was an afc a few years back. I wanted this chick bad on my job, he told me to write her a ****ing letter and leave it on her car, the girl showed some of her co workers and hence to say I never got her, that was probably the worst advice I ever took.
 

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In fifth grade I liked a girl so i asked my mom what to do, she told me to make a bead bracelet for the girl. Well I did it. Since it was 5th grade that's not what ****ed me over but still... I actually made it :crackup:
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Nite said:
In fifth grade I liked a girl so i asked my mom what to do, she told me to make a bead bracelet for the girl. Well I did it. Since it was 5th grade that's not what ****ed me over but still... I actually made it :crackup:
lol, this.

In year 6 it was my crush's birthday and I asked my mum what to get her.
She recommended a perfumed diary.
"What the hell is this?"
I'm not sure how long it took to live that down...
 

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Ugh, dare we reflect on our AFC days? Okay...

20 years old in college. I was a junior, and I had a crush on this girl who also had a crush on me... at least at first. We'd be flirty with each other, and a couple of times she invited me to her apartment at night time... but this was back when I couldn't read signals well, and didn't realize her inviting me back was an invitation to bang her.

After a few of these missed signals on my end, she started showing less interest, and I didn't know how to tell if she liked me still or not. So, one of the R.A.'s I worked with at my dorm told me I should just call her up and tell her I liked her. So I did. Her response on the phone: "Yeah, I could kinda tell you did."

After that - GHOST. Granted, we had classes together, but she wouldn't talk to me as much, stopped answering my phone calls, and when we broke for the holidays she didn't even call me or see me in person to say "bye" - and told me later it was 'cause "I got real busy and had other stuff to do," blah blah blah!

It was after this girl that I eventually found these boards. It was also the LAST time I ever told a girl "I like you" directly.
 

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I got advice from my buddy who is now in an LTR. He told me to be as polite and nice as possible to girls, because all girls ever want is a nice guy. Needless to say it got me even more anxious, worried what to say to make sure I wasn't fųcking up, and the bottom line: I repelled girls like I was covered in liquid śhit!

This was coming from a guy who was with a lot of girls so I figured he knew his śhit. Pfft. He is now becoming a feminist more and more by the day and I can't even talk to him anymore. If his LTR girl dumps him he is up śhit creek without a paddle. Or canoe.
 

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Mike32ct said:
I thought it was a good idea too, but I have a 100% flake rate after trying it several times.
ive heard this before too from a few different guys, whenever they texted a woman after the date to say they had a good time, it was game over regardless of how well the date went. what is the reason for this? anyone know ?
 

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ive heard this before too from a few different guys, whenever they texted a woman after the date to say they had a good time, it was game over regardless of how well the date went. what is the reason for this? anyone know ?

It comes off as a dude they'll think is "desperate" and or too nice. Putting "pressure" on her making her think: "Oh this guy went out with me once and he's "moving too quickly". He's no challenge.

A chick knows whether she's had a good time or not. No need to "confirm" it with her.

Either way you let them sit on it for a few and think about it themselves. Give them time to process it, miss you and make their "decision".

It'll have them wondering if YOU really had a good time and why you didn't call back to tell them you had a good time getting that possible "competition" anxiety. IE:"hmmm maybe he met someone else? Maybe he's seeing other chicks? Maybe he doesn't "need" me and or is taking things slow."

It gives them time to think and "worry" as well as discuss it with their friends. "Is he going to call?" "Do you think he really had a good time?"

Same chit dudes do if they have a good time with a chick and don't hear from her. They start wondering about that chick and they want to prove to her they need another date etc.

You want to leave dates on a high note and kindof like a cliff hanger that TV shows do all of the time everyday to get the viewers to tune in again and not give up the ending.

That's basically it.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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