“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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What's the deal with online dating?

bigdave17

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I posted my pics on photofeeler and got decent to strong results - one photo was 90% trustworthy and 75% attractive. 1 photo was 65% attractive. I'm also decent height (5'10), college educated and make six figures

why is my response rate such garbage? I only have 2 women legit interested in me and i think I've messaged at least 40 to 50. I've had a few others reply but then it fizzled. What are these women looking for that a 7/10 guy making six figures is not good enough?

Is this just a case of being way more men than dating sites so even 7/10 females are looking for a 10/10 male?

What's weird is I've had only a small percentage of my messages even read. Are there lots of women on there who are not interested in meeting anybody? When I consider how many women have replied vs how many have even read my message, its not too bad I suppose but is that normal?
 

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i know nothing about online dating but its ez to understand

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Have a HB7 or better show you her bumble/tinder/match account and it will be clear. These girls get bombarded with messages/matches. They can be as picky and as entitled as they want. Girls have shown me their dating app accounts. Most are clueless on how to sort thru a bunch of guys and are overwhelmed. Most of the guys are clueless bumbling idiots that say the most boring stuff.

Most of my pics rank between 80-90% on the attractiveness, trustworthy, smartness. Most of the girls I get are my age and HB8's.

I started a new Bumble Sunday night and within 12hrs I had over 50 girls that were interested. Only 1 out of those 50 did I find attractive enough to even consider. In a weeks time I might have 7 HB8's I am talking to. If I can get 1 to go out with me its a good week.

I'm assuming you are using match....I gave up on that when Bumble/Tinder got popular. If I have to do more than swipe right, then its too much work for me. Match has been to court multiple times over the use of fake profiles. I've been a victim of their fake profiles. Even Bumble uses fake profiles. When I did use match a few years back, the girls I actually got to go out with me were girls that discovered me first.

You have to understand, there is not a very big supply of attractive women. They are in high demand. Most of the ones I know got on a dating app for a brief time and then off of it due to too many dik pics, beta dudes, too many choices, boring conversations, etc.

Also I had an Armenian buddy like you that never did very well on dating apps. The girls he did get were almost always Persian/Hispanic.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Have a HB7 or better show you her bumble/tinder/match account and it will be clear. These girls get bombarded with messages/matches. They can be as picky and as entitled as they want. Girls have shown me their dating app accounts. Most are clueless on how to sort thru a bunch of guys and are overwhelmed. Most of the guys are clueless bumbling idiots that say the most boring stuff.

Most of my pics rank between 80-90% on the attractiveness, trustworthy, smartness. Most of the girls I get are my age and HB8's.

I started a new Bumble Sunday night and within 12hrs I had over 50 girls that were interested. Only 1 out of those 50 did I find attractive enough to even consider. In a weeks time I might have 7 HB8's I am talking to. If I can get 1 to go out with me its a good week.

I'm assuming you are using match....I gave up on that when Bumble/Tinder got popular. If I have to do more than swipe right, then its too much work for me. Match has been to court multiple times over the use of fake profiles. I've been a victim of their fake profiles. Even Bumble uses fake profiles. When I did use match a few years back, the girls I actually got to go out with me were girls that discovered me first.

You have to understand, there is not a very big supply of attractive women. They are in high demand. Most of the ones I know got on a dating app for a brief time and then off of it due to too many dik pics, beta dudes, too many choices, boring conversations, etc.

Also I had an Armenian buddy like you that never did very well on dating apps. The girls he did get were almost always Persian/Hispanic.
I'm totally cool getting persian/hispanic/italian. I prefer those way more than white girls and my response rate is way better.

the problem is the numbers game. It's mostly light skin white girls on these dating sites
 

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You have to understand, there is not a very big supply of attractive women. They are in high demand. Most of the ones I know got on a dating app for a brief time and then off of it due to too many dik pics, beta dudes, too many choices, boring conversations, etc.

Also I had an Armenian buddy like you that never did very well on dating apps. The girls he did get were almost always Persian/Hispanic.
So these girls quit using online dating altogether? They found dates the conventional way? Bars? Through friends? What was their alternative?
 

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So these girls quit using online dating altogether? They found dates the conventional way? Bars? Through friends? What was their alternative?
They quit using it for the time being. Typically after 5 days most were turned off by it. Most didn't seek an alternative right away. Some might turn their profiles off or just not check the site for a week or so.
 

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They quit using it for the time being. Typically after 5 days most were turned off by it. Most didn't seek an alternative right away. Some might turn their profiles off or just not check the site for a week or so.
Right, but how did they find dates then without online dating? Bars, clubs, social circles?
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I posted my pics on photofeeler and got decent to strong results - one photo was 90% trustworthy and 75% attractive. 1 photo was 65% attractive. I'm also decent height (5'10), college educated and make six figures

why is my response rate such garbage? I only have 2 women legit interested in me and i think I've messaged at least 40 to 50. I've had a few others reply but then it fizzled. What are these women looking for that a 7/10 guy making six figures is not good enough?

Is this just a case of being way more men than dating sites so even 7/10 females are looking for a 10/10 male?

What's weird is I've had only a small percentage of my messages even read. Are there lots of women on there who are not interested in meeting anybody? When I consider how many women have replied vs how many have even read my message, its not too bad I suppose but is that normal?
To answer one of your questions, yes. There are MANY women on OLD who are not interested in meeting anyone.

I’d say literally 20% of female accounts on OLD are inactive and 60% of females on OLD are attention whvres using the platform solely for their daily dose of dopamine spikes they get when they see those notifications on their phones.

“You matched with Bradley Lightning-c0ck!”

*dopamine spike*

“Chadley Thunderballs sent you a message!”

*dopamine spike*

That leaves you with 20% of OLD women that are actually looking to meet.

BUT WAIT...

10% out of that 20% are ugly, fat, or both.

That leaves you with roughly 10% of women on OLD who are down to meetup with someone (that you yourself would like to meetup with too) and even then, you need top notch pictures and a witty/funny profile to even have a chance at women messaging you first or messaging you back.

I’ve heard through the grapevine in the past that I’m considered an 8-9 looks-wise by women and its still a rough life out here on OLD but I’ve had some success so can’t complain.
 
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What photos do you use for online dating services? I'm thinking about to visit professional photo studio to make for example portrait photography, or maybe something else, I don't know) Maybe you can give some advice?
 

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online dating, when you are so desperate, you want to hang out with 5 you are trying to know over the internet.

OLD is for low quality, who can't get anything on they normal lives, or just wanting some atencion. if you really want to score, you need to put the best pic you can, forget inteligent and trustworthy, go for sexy and dominant, most of these are for ONS so or you score first night or you will not get to see her again
 

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Ego booster for MOST women. However, there are some that are actually interested in finding someone. When you're on a hot streak, it works, when you have a low streak, time to take a break and sign-off.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Okay the thing with online dating with women is they get hundreds of messages from men and then they get a false view of themselves regarding SMV. So online dating is not a really great way to meet women. You probably get a better response or looks when you are out and about. Online dating for women they think they are hotter with all the messages they get but in reality what they are getting are messages from horny men both ugly and good looking.
 

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If OLD is only full of lowlife sleazebags, why does anyone engage,in it at all? Are guys that lonely, or maybe they're specifically looking for lowlife sleazebags to have their way with?
 

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My heart skipped a beat when I saw this thread, I thought bigdave was back......

Close call
 

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If OLD is only full of lowlife sleazebags, why does anyone engage,in it at all? Are guys that lonely, or maybe they're specifically looking for lowlife sleazebags to have their way with?
Good to use them to relieve stress and practice. The only way you'd get better at the game is to practice. OLD = pvssy practice.
 

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Good to use them to relieve stress and practice. The only way you'd get better at the game is to practice. OLD = pvssy practice.
Practicing with lowlife sleazebags only shows you what works with lowlife sleazebags. Which is something I always suspected was a big part of PUA anyway.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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