"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Whats the best way to deal with this

G Rambo34

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Going out alone can be pretty intimidating, but one needs to experience this every once in a while when his bros are just slackin and not keeping it real. What do you guys do to get comfortbable when you are out alone on a friday night. The world is yours, I know, but alot of times its about who you know. Or is it? Obviously I dont wanna seem creepy being alone and stuff, but Im sure theres gotta be an upside to this. Right? Where should I go?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Duffdog

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I like going by myself. Mostly because I know very few guys who actually are comfortable approaching women. I typically go to bars where there is at least something there that I am comfortable with-- i.e. the bartender is my friend, I know a ****tail waitress, the dj, the game is on or anything that makes the place less foreign to me. Going somewhere totally blind with no plan at all isn't fun for me, I have done it. It feels like you are all isolated even though you are surrounded by people, there is no "home base" if you will. I will admit that I have been to a bar trying to hit on this bartender and got sidetracked many times and met some really cool girls. But other times, when I thought it would be cool to just go out of the blue...nothing.
 

imarockstar

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dude i live in a college town and there are a lot of nightclubs around. a dancefloor is present along with a couple bars surrounding it. i had this same phobia since i moved to a new town and didnt know anyone here, but i went out a couple weekends ago on my own and it was actually pretty fun. my advice is to have a few drinks but not get smashed, you wanna be fluent with your words to people youve never met before. just say whats up to everyone you pass by, introduce yourself to a couple people, and find a cute chick to dance with. if you have bars and no clubs, just talk to the people surrounding you at the bar. even if its not act like its your nature to meet new people. half the time the people are gonna be buzzed anyway and in a great mood
 

ChalengeGuyFan

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Guess what I have seen tonight, on my first night out ALONE.
I have seen many hot chicks and plenty on guys alone as well!

You are not the only one doing this and doing it definately doesn't make you a weirdo. Just have a good time, neverminding you are alone. :)


I really have to train my english skills :D
 
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