"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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What would you say to this?

ebracer05

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I've been really upping my number of approaches with women and its been fantastic. I ran in to this really cute girl at the mall the other day and got her number and made plans to get to know each other over some coffee. She was texting me and then I didn't hear from her for a few days and didn't contact her. I had left her a voicemail and figured if she didn't respond, she was a flake and there are plenty of other beautiful girls out there. She sent me this text today:

"Hey (my name)! I just got the chance to listen to your message and i should tell you that i'm talking to someone right now and probably shouldn't lead you on. I should have been upfront with you sooner, its just i was really got [sic] off guard with how sweet you were that night at build a bear. i really appreciate you coming in and saying what you did to me. who knows, maybe ill run into ya sometime at akron. sorry and thanks again"

There were a couple directions I was thinking of going with this. As captain Kirk said repeatedly in Star Trek 2, "i don't like to lose". And she's at least an 8 in my book, maybe 8.5, so I'd like to get a peice if I could. These are some of the responses I was thinking of.

"Wow, you're really presumptious! All I said was I wanted to get some coffee and here you are telling me you're not ready for me to be your boyfriend?? You need to learn how to take it slow ;)"

or

"I know I'm sweet. Definitely sweet enough to catch you off guard and make you forget you were "talking" to someone else. What else could I make you forget?"

What would you guys say?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Atom Smasher

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I think your second possible message is very good. Not a fan of the first one.

The second one shows poise, lack of being overly concerned, and self-assurance.

But I'm a bit of a tough guy and if it were me, she would have lost big points with me since she is so easily sidetracked by other men. I say that of course because she says she has a boyfriend. Still, my way of thinking is appropriate for my age group (say, 30s on up) but may not be as big a deal in yours.

Bottom line, I like that second response. I would send it.
 

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She wouldn't even respond to the second one. The 1st one is ok I guess.

I'd probably try something kinda unorthodox...maybe "pssh just thought you'd be a cool girl to hang out with, some of my friends are going to XYZ bar this weekend, you should come out!" Basically just say you wanted to be friend with her. Then, proceed like you wanna fvck her.

Of course, this isn't likely to work (nor is anything else IMO), so just as long as you go into this knowing that, you can't lose!

Just saw Atom Smasher's response. I hate the second response!!
 

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It would definitely elicite a response from an older woman, not sure about younger. Even the great Atom Smasher cannot know all things (though he comes damn close).
 

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What I would reply back would be: "Sure thing sweetheart. When you're done with him, give me a call. If I'm available and you've been a good girl, I might just let you buy me a drink! ;)" or something along those lines.

YMMV.

Still, something doesn't feel right... my spider sense is tingling. If she digs this other guy more than you, why did she give you her number... something's not adding up...
 

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Atom Smasher said:
It would definitely elicite a response from an older woman, not sure about younger. Even the great Atom Smasher cannot know all things (though he comes damn close).
Ha yeah I could see that being the case, I have a pretty good feeling that if I sent that to a chick my age she'd just label me as some sort of "creeper" and leave it at that (since I hardly know her, that is). But the OP could anyway try it, he's got nothing to lose :D
 

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Yes, there are times when I recognize that what has worked for me for a couple of decades may not be perceived the same way with younger people.

And that is the thing, he has nothing to lose My advice was based on the fact that I think it's pretty unlikely that she will swing to a new branch any time soon. So it's a good time for experimentation.
 

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First is the best choice. Your not putting pressure on her.
 

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when a girl tells me she has a bf, which is very rare these days, i like using this response. what a relief! i though i might have another stalker on my hands...lol but thats cool, i understand how to be discreet, and plus i know you'll have something to do when we're not hanging out....lol
 

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I think it's a deal breaker. If you reply at all you've just prooved that she is worth your time- which she is not
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Kal_Luke said:
I think it's a deal breaker. If you reply at all you've just prooved that she is worth your time- which she is not
I would say this was true UNLESS....You used the littletrolls technique...Or someone else had a cleaver, make yourself the prize, type message / keep it casual.
 

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keep in mind some girls say they have a bf as a s.hit test. believe 10% of her words and 90% of her actons. the s.hit test is to see if you give up like an AFC when she turns up the heat a little bit. so just blow it off like you didnt even hear it and dont care, and proceed to game her. until you find out for 100% sure she has a bf, its game on in my book.
 

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Plenty of fish in the sea. I'd say nothing and move on to my next plate. Got no time for games, dude.
 

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I went with my second response and never heard anything back. But as has been said time and time again, there are plenty of fish in the sea, and i still have plenty of girls on the line. Losing one just opens up more time for me to find more
 

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Wish I would've caught this before you sent your reply.

Both of those responses are weak (not because they are poorly thought out), but simply because this girl is more interested in someone else; flat out.

You can over-analyze all day as to what the real story is, but from her response to your voicemail, I'd assume there was another guy she was seeing for a bit and they either got a bit closer since you # closed or she realized that she wasn't that into you.

Either way, when there is literally almost no history with you and a girl, don't bother trying to come up with a clever response. Its not going to have the desired response compared to a girl that you had some more history with.....

I also disagree with littletroll; women don't throw out shiat tests after a simple number close. What the PUA community commonly refers to as a shiat test is usually, (not always), a case of little to low interest.






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Just say "ok" and cut contact. She'll eventually not be able to stop thinking about you and contact you and try to get you to set something up.
If not, there are other HB8s, 9s and 10s with your name written all over them. Never lose your head over a little piece of (uninterested) tail.
 

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ebracer05 said:
i should tell you that i'm talking to someone right now and probably shouldn't lead you on.
I presume that this should be somewhere along the lines with I have a boyfriend... The way this is formulated is just really wierd...

To the 'I have a boyfriend line' I would respond (considering this is a simular situation you could reply in a simular way):
"That's okay, I got many male friends, I'll even be nice enough to introduce you to some! That way you'll become social too, like me! How about friday, me and some friends are going to XYZ?"

That mostly only works if you're talking to them, in a text message you'll probebly crash and burn but it's better than nothing considering she just rejected you anyhow... Say it in their face and they'll wanna prove to you that they aren't anti social :yes:

Anyhow I don't see this working out anymore, she doesn't even have the balls to pick up the phone and say what's on her mind, she's clearly not intrested... NEXT and don't reply...

Edit: doh just saw you already replied :D ow well, learn your lesson outta this now you can spot no intrest better, thank you cute HB8 <3
 
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