"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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What would you do?

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So my friend has been bugging me for a while to go clubbing' with him on a Tuesday....

Yesterday, I finally gave in on the condition that he drives....

So we get to the club real early (11ish) and I have a beer or two, then walks in this hb8.5and she is just so hot...

My friend and I are betting about her origin, I go with Arabic, he goes with Romanian, we bet a beer and I go ask her....

Turns out she is from Brazil,

I ignore her for the rest of night, and with every passing moment she is trying harder and harder to get my attention....

At about 2, I go outside to grab a breath of fresh air.... and when I come back in, she had put her purse where I was sitting...

So I move her purse onto the table and I light a cigarette.

She comes and asks if I could watch her purse for her..... I go "Sure," and I give her a big smile, she smiles and starts dancing 3 feet a way fro me....

So I keep ignoring her...
:rolleyes:


Three minutes later (cig was not done) she comes back and says "my friends are not from Montréal but I am,"

I smile again and say "That's great; btw, what's that perfume you are wearing?"
--Stuff smelled absolutely awesome!

She answers I say wow! And take a big whiff,

She takes her bag, dances for 10 minutes and leaves the club.....

After I left, I thought that maybe I should've grabbed her number,

I mean don't get me wrong, I've got a steady girlfriend (going on 1yr+) but this one is something else....

So is the situation salvageable?

Should I hit the club again next Tuesday? Friend says that she is a regular there....

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(funny thing that happened that night: hb8.5 walks up to my freind and says: "hi, i hope you're not the type to get offended but my freind thinks you're really cute... He says where, she points at a guy, he answers: " I'm offended, now **** off!."

Even the hb8.5 laughed :)
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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cuz u have a gf, i would have done the same and ignored her.
 
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I know,

the two sides of the coin are:
1-Stay with current Gf and wonder about this one,
2-See if gf is the right one for me by staying open

just like

1- Talk to a chick and risk rejection,
2- not talk to her and hold it against yourself....

but agin, the question is, can this be saved?
 
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i would have hit on her so fast, she wouldn't remember where she left her g-string.

why?

simple, yes you have a LTR gf, but then again what about the HB 8.5, she might end up being the best thing to ever happen to u. EVER, like she could have been god's gift to u, handed down from the heavens and drop into your hands. and u blew it.

lol, you'll be wanking over her for months.
 
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Fair Enough Evangenlion, now question is, can this be saved or not?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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To answer your question, I would go back to the club, maybe not next sat but anyway. I would talk to the girl, leave an impression and get her email.

Now you probably like your gf which is good. (if you like her) But it wont hurt you to have a back up plan, and simply by knowing you have the option you won't come as afc to your gf. It will help your game in future and even if she (brazil girl) figures you're dating (by simply bc you're not doing further approaches) and moves on, you will have her as a clubfriend. (someone you are not probably gonna date but who will help you build social proof in future if needed) Don't close any doors that doesnt need closing.
 
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i like Tyron's advice...
 
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Originally posted by Black_Italian
Dont cheat.

Ninja out
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Yea, this coming from the man w/ the brand new G/F ... lol just teasin Ninja

If you've been with your g/f for over a year, and your seriously thinking about other women, maybe its time to look at moving on in your current relationship.
 
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moving on as in moving on in life, or with the relationship?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Moving on w/ the relationship. If after a year, your mind is starting to wonder, I think its a sign of your true intentions. Why waste more of your time w/ her if your eventually going to wonder, unless you keep her around to use and abuse her. But thats an ethically debate considering you've been w/ her for a year. She might deserve the respect of a decent adios.
 
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